Isn't Tor using always out-of-date Firefox, for minimizing tracking on versions? Wouldn't this affect the security angle?
It is based on Firefox ESR(Extended Support Release) which gets security fixes backported.
The Mullvad Browser
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#92From the FAQ [0]: > Why is the time is wrong? > The timezone is spoofed, to combat fingerprinting. > What's this weird spacing around the websites? > It’s called letterboxing, a function to combat fingerprinting (using your browser window size to identify you together with other measures). > How do I stay logged into specific websites between sessions? > It’s not possible. It’s an action to combat tracking. Not sure…
Except most of the time I don't want to spoof my timezone, don't want weird spacing around websites, and do want to remain logged in to websites. > How do I stay logged into specific websites between sessions? > It’s not possible. It’s an action to combat tracking. Turns me off immediately
Convenience is the wedge that separates you from your privacy.
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#93I wonder how many VPN providers are going to turn out to be honeypots in the long run. Every time they make it easier, I get more suspicious about the privacy really being provided. Perhaps I’m just really distrustful and cynical.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except most of the time I don't want to spoof my timezone, don't want weird spacing around websites, and do want to remain logged in to websites. > How do I stay logged into specific websites between sessions? > It’s not possible. It’s an action to combat tracking. Turns me off immediately
Well, some of us don't want to be tracked, don't want to be tracked and don't want to be tracked. Given your stated preferences, are you actually looking for a privacy-focused browser?
It should be possible to make exceptions for sites you trust IMO.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Simply download the Tor browser and evaluate its performance on one of the many browser fingerprint [1][2] and browser leak [3][4] web services. The last time I checked, it didn't pass every test. [1] https://www.amiunique.org/fp [2] https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/ [3] https://browserleaks.com/ [4] https://www.dnsleaktest.com/
Testing on a bunch of sites does nothing at all. Fingerprinting is a lot more than just that
Browser fingerprinting is exactly that. And the browser leaks are an even more concerning issue that must be confirmed. Websites want to know who you are or at least that you're not a bot. As a pro-privacy user, you don't want websites to know either of those things. That's low-hanging fruit that a few simple browser tweaks can help with.
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#96I guess why not. This is an open source, rebranded Firefox and Firefox-like browsers could use some publicity. It promotes privacy and privacy can use some publicity too. Tor too. Mullvad seems to be honest in the fact that their business model is selling VPNs and it's nice they are saying it's not enough. They are not saying that you might not need one though. We need a Firefox with good defaults and it seems like t…
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, some of us don't want to be tracked, don't want to be tracked and don't want to be tracked. Given your stated preferences, are you actually looking for a privacy-focused browser?
Some people just want everything, no compromises.
But isn't this what Firefox containers achieve?
My understanding is that cookies etc aren't shared between containers, so I can stay logged in, and not be tracked across websites.
If it's achievable, why compromise?
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed, my fingerprint in https://www.amiunique.org/fp appears to be unique when using the Mullvad browser.
I just diffed the fingerprint[0] of 6 Mullvad browser sessions across 2 different devices and it was a unique fingerprint in every case[1] It mixes a lot - fonts returned, media devices, the canvas ID - it's pretty good and similar to what you expect from the improvements out of Tor Browser [0] using amiunique and fingerprint.js (now fingerprint.com) - which most of the nefarious ad networks use [1] not that just as…
Check all the browser leak tests too, they are important and different tests.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
AFIK it's a "fork" of the tor-browser (which is a fork of Firefox) but instead of connecting to the tor network you connect to a VPN. So you get all the in-browser tracking protection Firefox has (e.g. against fingerprinting) + the ones only the Tor browser has but without the drawbacks of the tor network and in turn without onion security.
Does the tor browser fork stay up to date quickly? I would be quite worried about stale browsers in this day and age, to an extent at least
I believe Tor is collaborating with Mozilla very closely, to the point that Mozilla includes patches from Tor Browser now: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Tor_Uplift
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#100I guess why not. This is an open source, rebranded Firefox and Firefox-like browsers could use some publicity. It promotes privacy and privacy can use some publicity too. Tor too. Mullvad seems to be honest in the fact that their business model is selling VPNs and it's nice they are saying it's not enough. They are not saying that you might not need one though. We need a Firefox with good defaults and it seems like t…
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