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Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Post by Aeolun »

not-chatgpt wrote: post #131
mindcandy wrote: post #74

Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…

Is there an actual source for that or are you just here to complain about Stable Diffusion users flooding your Twitter with AI waifus? If David is such a "big dreamer hippie dork," he should: 1. either open source the model or at least make it cheaper ($8/month for just 200 images is ridiculous) and 2. not bow down to dictators, or just stay out of political subjects completely.

I dunno, you can generate as many images as you want in slow mode right?

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Post by WJW »

progbits wrote: post #191
ricochet11 wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently got into CNC machining, so tried searching twitter to find some accounts to follow. boy was i surprised by that #cnc hashtag.

I just tried search for #cnc and mostly got machining content, with bits of non-English stuff I don't understand but looked innocent enough. What sort of content did you see?

Presumably this: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=CNC

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Post by walkhour »

mindcandy wrote: post #74

Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…

> ridiculing politicians in China is taboo

You mean the Chinese politicians that are in power right? Chinese propaganda ridicules constantly politicians from other countries.

Obviously this is just a well calculated move. It's acceptable to mock certain kind of people/groups. That's all there is to it. We don't need to go into Chinese psychology.

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Post by speedgoose »

zirgs wrote: post #128
speedgoose wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's becoming difficult to find good content among the tons of waifu with various degrees of anatomy realism. The most popular stable diffusion resources website is a mess right now: https://civitai.com

You can just filter out anime in account settings.

I may have to create an account, but it should have some weights by default.

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Post by walkhour »

Individuals like LeBron James do it — a self proclaimed human rights activist. Companies do it. I have yet to see a public entity who has a spine on this topic and is well respected.

It's obvious this is a business decision, not some conclusion of "exploring the cultural differences of different countries, and China has a more respectful culture".

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Post by F2hP18Foam »

650REDHAIR wrote: post #147
throwaway675309 wrote: post #56

Mid journey is already fairly heavy handed in terms of its onerous restrictions and puritanical censorship (blood, gore, etc), so this comes as no surprise. I find myself having to turn more and more to stable diffusion models to finish a lot of my concept work.

I can’t get stable diffusion to do a 1/10th of what I can do in MJ. I’ve followed guides, tried different parameters, etc etc. Any tips you’ve picked up?

In my opinion MJ v5 has better generations on average than a well-customised SD pipeline, but only by a little bit. SD definitely requires more work in terms of set-up and greater specificity in your prompt text.

I would recommend downloading one of the more aesthetically pleasing models from Huggingface or Civit.ai, such as "Deliberate", "Protogen" or "Realistic Vision".

Using 'clip interrogator' on existing images that you find appealing can be a great way to find interesting keywords to include in your prompts.

If you're comfortable hooking things together in a node based UI, I would recommend ComfyUI as it can give you greater flexibility around how your images are generated.

What kind of images are you trying to generate? I can maybe give some more specific advice on that.

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Post by EGreg »

walkhour wrote: post #205

Individuals like LeBron James do it — a self proclaimed human rights activist. Companies do it. I have yet to see a public entity who has a spine on this topic and is well respected. It's obvious this is a business decision, not some conclusion of "exploring the cultural differences of different countries, and China has a more respectful culture".

It’s capitalism and centralized control. Once again, Linux and open source projects, scientists etc. do not have such an issue.

Their software is available to everyone everywhere. These organizations have taken a “stance” alright — and that is basically that anyone can use it for any purpose. Including satire!

I bet you Stable Diffusion won’t have such a controversy.

The fact that GitHub had to beg the permission of the US government to let their centralized platform serve open source software to Iran says quite a lot. It shows how centralized governments and corporations create the problems to start with, whereas gift economies don’t have any of these problems

https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/5/22215588/github-iran-sanct...

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Post by HlessClaudesman »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #185
darepublic wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You're barking up the wrong tree. Stable Diffusion allows for just about everything, including pornographic images and parodies of Xi Jingping. MidJourney is a more controlled platform that doesn't allow for those things. And, because it's so tightly controlled, it hasn't degenerated into a mere parade of sexualized anime characters -- and it minimizes the political risk to its platform. MidJourney actually seems com…

Yes exactly. You or I may not like where MidJourney draws the line on allowable content, but if they want to run a service buisness they must draw a line somewhere.

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Post by sneak »

mindcandy wrote: post #74

Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…

> Whenever politics or other controversial topics come up, the MJ teams tries to stay out of it.

Actively engaging in censorship is the opposite of staying out of politics. It's engaging with a political system actively.

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