Speaking of which, presumably ChatGPT with its close association with China is also deferential to the chilling effects of Chinese demands, preferences, requests and requirements?
What is the close association you’re referring to?
Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping
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#122>Local laws are suddenly not so local anymore, and people like Holz have no qualms about aiding their illiberal international spread.
Okay, after decades on an American internet where a nipple is often enough to provoke censorship I do have to laugh a little bit about the sudden insight that large nations, shockingly enough, have influence beyond their own borders.
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#123Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…
Lol. I clicked on the link, thinking "Oh come on, it can't be THAT bad", and was presented with a literal endless gallery of slightly Manga-ish women with unfathomably huge boobs.
Maybe, instead of turning the whole world into paperclips, the AI apocalypse will consist of the filling of every last speck of hard disk storage space with a trillion boringly similar synthetic jpegs of such charming ladies.
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#124>> “the ability for people in China to use this tech is more important than your ability to generate satire.” How about "the ability for people to be free and have free systems and society is more important than the money we hope to get from doing business in China". But here we are in Silicon Valley where business and money rise above all else including national sovereignty.
I mean, doesn't the concept of a free society apply to private corporations as well? The government is not restricting you; the private company is exercising its right to run its business according to its own free will. The principle of a free society suggests that "if you don't like the company's policy, find another one or create your own." Is that wrong?
Or course, and their decisions are free to be scrutinized.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as western companies can’t do unrestricted business in China, neither should Chinese companies be able here. The earlier we break the toxic relationship, the better. But yeah, money over everything.
> As long as western companies can’t do unrestricted business in China, neither should Chinese companies be able here. Well, they can't and they don't. They have to follow the local laws. Facebook, for example, doesn't operate in China because Facebook made the deliberate decision that they don't want to follow the same laws Chinese companies have to follow. Their comment was this: “We need to figure out a solution t…
There. Is. No. such. Thing. As. Local. Law.
There is a fine mist of ilusion of rule of law. But the party is outside of it. And the truth is, the laws is more similar to the law of network connections within the family graph of a mafia clan.
Its basically just used as a body wrapping foil, once the graph has decided to finnish of some node. Stop projecting western values upon a completely different scenario, just because its apt at mimicrcy.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The people in charge get voted in by a minority of the people who go to vote Except for a couple examples in the US, I'm not aware of democratic countries where this has actually occurred. And in the US, it's not a common occurrence.
in almost any election in every European country the voter presence is 50% or below. I think that's what the comment was about... is just a small % of people that participate in voting and even smaller percentage that votes for the winner.
Average voter participation is 65% in european countries.
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#127Maybe I'm naive but I think it's a strong argument on why China won't catch up with the tech of LLM's and diffusion anytime soon. Half of their effort goes to censorship.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Lots of people complain that they don’t allow porn. But, as a result, a millions of people who are not just horny teenage boys enjoy hanging out on the server sharing and discussing art that is not just pics of sexy women all day every day. I don't think that follows - boobs being allowed doesn't stop people from creating SFW works as well.
It's becoming difficult to find good content among the tons of waifu with various degrees of anatomy realism. The most popular stable diffusion resources website is a mess right now: https://civitai.com
You can just filter out anime in account settings.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, doesn't the concept of a free society apply to private corporations as well? The government is not restricting you; the private company is exercising its right to run its business according to its own free will. The principle of a free society suggests that "if you don't like the company's policy, find another one or create your own." Is that wrong?
Or course, and their decisions are free to be scrutinized.
Scrutiny is justified. However, it should be within the scope of whether the product fulfills the need and should have nothing to do with "sovereignty" or "free speech rights," don't you think?
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#130Maybe I'm naive but I think it's a strong argument on why China won't catch up with the tech of LLM's and diffusion anytime soon. Half of their effort goes to censorship.
ChatGPT also is being censored pretty heavily.