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The day Windows died

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Re: The day Windows died

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Do wsl --update as administrator If doesn't work the first time try a few times

> If doesn't work the first time try a few times Windows sounds like it hasn’t changed much after all.

It depends, does the process also require restarting the system for user app config changes?

Re: The day Windows died

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Meh, my latest laptops, which are your bog-standard HP enterprise models, both worked better when new under Linux than under Windows. One of them, AMD-based, "only" had some issue with the USB hub to which the webcam and light sensor are connected. It otherwise worked OK. On the OOB Windows install which came with the PC from the factory, the backlight couldn't go up all the day and was a horribly dim affair. It was…

> The only "config file fiddling" I did was actually Xorg, but that's because I insisted on remapping CAPS to Hyper and using a mac-style US layout with the win and menu keys working as level 3 shift for easier French typing. How do you even do that under windows? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=102... I've been using Linux and Windows for a long time. A lot of Linux enthusiasts are frankly u…

I'm familiar with this, but I didn't find a way of remapping the alt/win keys with it. The closest I've found was using alt-gr for level 3. But I don't want that, I want the key next to it to be alt-gr. I also want to have it on the left side, too.

I've managed to make this work by combining that and another app that fiddled something in the registry to move super to caps and remap super to alt-gr.

> A lot of Linux enthusiasts are frankly uninformed about Windows power functions.

Because they're basically undiscoverable and require hours of googling.

The first approach I'd found, using the remap function of PowerToys kinda worked. But it randomly stopped working and would behave as if I had the super key pressed all the time. Cue windows randomly moving around, etc.

Re: The day Windows died

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It's really sad that there is no where for us to go in the desktop OS space right now. I, weirdly, daily drive all 3 OSes. MacOS; Work issued laptop and longish-time user (about 6 years with it). Windows; Desktop PC mostly for games. I've been using Windows since I could walk. Fedora; Desktop PC, dual booted which I use for most everything else. I cannot believe how much of a dumpster fire Windows has become. From th…

This post is basically about the author's nostalgia for his early days of computing with Windows 95 and how he wanted his son to have the same experience. This post is screaming out for Linux. Linux is the solution to his dilemma. If he reformats that drive and puts say Kubuntu on it - the kid's first PC experience is going to be a vaguely retro 90's style shell with a start menu, the start menu is going to have a Ga…

This post is also saying he wants to protect his child from social media _and_ have the ability to do so.

Windows on the other hand, is saying, we're in charge, and no, we'll make sure you can't (easily) uninstall any of this.

I never thought I'd see an OS become a thinly veiled advertisement platform, but here we are in 2023.

It was tradition, even 20 years ago to "dump on Windows", but that was generally by programmers about the Win32 api, spyware/crapware, random crashes and so on, but the UI/UX even then didn't really get too much hate (as I recall it, anyway).

I'm another 'me too' here. I've use Mac/Linux/Windows daily for work, but have used exclusively Linux (edit) at home since Windows 8, really. I keep a partition with Win11 on it, and when I do drop into it to run Windows Update stuff keeps coming back, or new crap appears on my Start Menu. Then I log out, and don't touch it for 6 months.

The irony in 2023 that increasing amounts of software have Mac (and even Linux downloads), but don't have a Windows download. Something unheard of a decade ago.

I'd love to hear Balmer's refrain in 2023. It won't be "Developers! Developers! Developers!" because we've all gone to Linux or MacOS.

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Or keep trying to fix the environment + hardware compatibility issues and not work on the actual study. Or keep editing some random xorg.conf file because his monitor's display suddenly became weird. Or try to fix some other random files since the sound driver doesn't work. He's 10. I was doing this stuff in Linux when I was… well, not 10, but 12. Today I work with computers. What do you think ”tinkering” means? I do…

In a lot of ways it was way easier back then as you didn't have the fragmentation. You ran X11/Xorg (no Wayland), sysv init (no systemd), OSS or ALSA, not pulseaudio, you had sane/not insanely bloated desktops like KDE2 or XFCE. Even unicode wasn't something most really had to care much about...world was still mostly ascii.

> You ran X11/Xorg (no Wayland)

It was XFree86 -- with separate server binary for each chipset. Then came XFree86 4.0 with a new, hot thing: modularity. You could load drivers as modules, but that presented an entirely new way to make things more complicated. XFree86 became an OS in itself, including dynamic linker, PCI handling, vm86 emulator...

With Wayland, things are much simpler.

> , sysv init (no systemd)

There was bsdinit at the time. Sysvinit was considered bloated by the same types, who cannot consider systemd today.

> you had sane/not insanely bloated desktops like KDE2 or XFCE.

There were other topics, like switching from libc5 to glibc2. Again, unicode, localization, nss services, so much "unnecessary bloat".

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I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…

We are getting close to the best of both worlds, low-power high-performance Apple ARM laptops plus freedom to run Linux on them, if you want to, with great support.

Great support is a stretch.

A lot of the Apple ARM hardware is a black box.

Plus, good luck if you need to run legacy x86 software, for example games, on the Apple stuff.

It's brave new world or nothing, more or less.

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I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad from Costco for about $500. The last time I bought a computer preloaded with Windows was about a decade ago. My experience so far: I turn it on, there's a license agreement. Actually, there's two. One is from Microsoft, and it's rather long but I guess it's about par for the course. Then there's the Lenovo license agreement, which is actually a bunch of other license agreements concaten…

> I guess I'll crawl back into my cave and keep using Linux for the foreseeable future. That's a valid choice, but not due to technical concerns. You're presumably very technically literate since you're using Linux. You can just save your license key somewhere and get fresh installation media and reformat the garbage on your device with a clean installation. You don't need any of the Lenovo stuff, your laptop will wo…

My non-technical relatives are using Linux just fine. They wouldn't be able to install it themselves though: I did it for them.

Re: The day Windows died

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It's really sad that there is no where for us to go in the desktop OS space right now. I, weirdly, daily drive all 3 OSes. MacOS; Work issued laptop and longish-time user (about 6 years with it). Windows; Desktop PC mostly for games. I've been using Windows since I could walk. Fedora; Desktop PC, dual booted which I use for most everything else. I cannot believe how much of a dumpster fire Windows has become. From th…

> but no matter how much I love it, Linux is janky. To be honest though, so is Windows (in certain aspects). I believe that someone who works with Linux every day, gets used to certain stuff being janky and no longer notices it - just like someon working with Windows every day gets used to the jank found there, and no longer notices it. It's only when you are used to one system and switch over to the other, that you…

I think a key difference is the type of jank we're talking about. In Windows, non-tech-savy users can get by. Most have never ever had to type a command, and it would paralyze them. Love it or hate it, the maddening level of clicks and menus it takes to get stuff done in Windows (or Mac OS) also makes it understandable to much more people. A CLI is just a much higher barrier for most people than memorizing a series of menu clicks.

Re: The day Windows died

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Yeah, but the base models really are crippled by a lack of storage. I've had to help a couple of family members with their 128GB Macs and 16GB iPhones and I hated every second of it. I bought my partner a Macbook with maxed out storage just so I don't have to deal with that shit again.

I don't think they sell 128GB macs any more do they? They shouldn't! 512GB seems to have been enough for me for the last ten years or so, if I need more storage than that, it goes on a different machine or cloud storage of some form. I haven't found it restrictive at all. I had my 2013 MBP (i5/8/512) in active use until 2020 when lockdown hit and I stopped needing a laptop for a while. Now I'm on a M1/16/512 Air, and…

They don't sell 128GB any more but 256GB isn't much better. Pretty much everyone apart from the most casual users is going to fill that up.

Re: The day Windows died

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Windows isn't free, though upgrades have been for a while after major releases since 10. You pay for it with a new PC or you have to buy it for custom built PCs. ChatGPT was trained on data from 2021 and earlier, and tends to hallucinate. It's not a reliable or original source.

So the adverts don’t pay for windows development? Where does the money go?

Or are Microsoft double dipping?

Re: The day Windows died

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It's really sad that there is no where for us to go in the desktop OS space right now. I, weirdly, daily drive all 3 OSes. MacOS; Work issued laptop and longish-time user (about 6 years with it). Windows; Desktop PC mostly for games. I've been using Windows since I could walk. Fedora; Desktop PC, dual booted which I use for most everything else. I cannot believe how much of a dumpster fire Windows has become. From th…

> Fedora is fantastic, but no matter how much I love it, Linux is janky.

Have you ever used Windows? Now *that'* janky.

Poor driver support, no way to update it, no package management, but plenty of ways to get it to show you adverts.

I feel like a reliable dependable modern desktop OS shouldn't need to connect to the Internet to pull down a new set of drivers every single time you plug a USB drive in.

Maybe 2024 will be the year of Windows on the desktop, but it's not ready yet.

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