What happens if you ask Midjourney for a picture of Mohammad?
I tried it on DallE and it says "It looks like this request may not follow our content policy."
It worked on Stable Diffusion
Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping
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#102I actually think having one person in the whole world you can't generate images of sends a much stronger political message than allowing people to make funny pictures of said person in puffer jackets.
It does. That message is “this person has power over you” and “this person is to be feared” while the alternative is “this person is to be mocked” because in mockery society reclaims power over dictators. It’s not an accident that most dictators try to control political satire.
The media here in Australia love to point our how sensitive and thin skinned the Chinese Government is. Mockery cuts deepest when pointing out actual flaws.
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#103Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…
> Lots of people complain that they don’t allow porn. But, as a result, a millions of people who are not just horny teenage boys enjoy hanging out on the server sharing and discussing art that is not just pics of sexy women all day every day. I don't think that follows - boobs being allowed doesn't stop people from creating SFW works as well.
It kinda does? Enabling NSFW would discourage a lot of people from using the server if they have to keep looking over their shoulder or only use it in private
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#104I am not going to defend Chinese censorship - I think it is way overdone and a huge waste of resources but all companies operating in China must uphold this regime and pay the cost associated with it.
However all countries have laws and norms governing satire and free speech.
For example the Mohammed cartoons (deliberately drawn to trigger a reaction / discussion of free speech and censorship):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_car...
Or this Australian drawing of American tennis superstar Serena Williams:
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/10844900
Widely seen as racist by the American audience.
Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping
#105I am not going to defend Chinese censorship - I think it is way overdone and a huge waste of resources but all companies operating in China must uphold this regime and pay the cost associated with it. However all countries have laws and norms governing satire and free speech. For example the Mohammed cartoons (deliberately drawn to trigger a reaction / discussion of free speech and censorship): https://en.m.wikipedia…
Being offended, and censoring are two different things.
Free speech should allow speech that offends people.
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#106Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…
> Lots of people complain that they don’t allow porn. But, as a result, a millions of people who are not just horny teenage boys enjoy hanging out on the server sharing and discussing art that is not just pics of sexy women all day every day. I don't think that follows - boobs being allowed doesn't stop people from creating SFW works as well.
Midjourney is supposed to be used collaboratively in the open. I understand the first thing people need to use new tech for is always porn, but can you just wait? Not everyone is so eager to get to that future.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry I will oppose Chinese censorship until I die and no amount of (good-willed) reverse psychology will make me give them a pass.
If there's one thing I'm certain of, it's that younger me had no business telling older me what he should or shouldn't do.
Sorry, I don't quite follow, can you elaborate?
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Lots of people complain that they don’t allow porn. But, as a result, a millions of people who are not just horny teenage boys enjoy hanging out on the server sharing and discussing art that is not just pics of sexy women all day every day. I don't think that follows - boobs being allowed doesn't stop people from creating SFW works as well.
It kinda does? Enabling NSFW would discourage a lot of people from using the server if they have to keep looking over their shoulder or only use it in private
Reddit, Tumblr, Imgur, and literally every other social network that allows NSFW content are frequently used in public, at work, etc.
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#109Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…
So it just happens that hippy values and western greed kowtowing to authoritarian regime values purely for the sake of money happen to be exactly the same thing. A story too convenient for my taste but everyone is free to believe whatever they want.
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Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping
#110Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…
Not so simple. No ridiculing Xi makes the platform less comfortable for people in other countries like the US. We expect freedom to ridicule and if that’s not available on a platform because the owner prefers to cater to a specific dictator, then we may be less likely to use it. I might still use it , I might not. But bowing to a dictator who says you can’t say Winnie the Pooh anymore seems like a one-sided, pro-dict…
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