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Re: The day Windows died

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Post by ncallaway »

nine_k wrote: post #428
ncallaway wrote: post #416

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> Windows; Desktop PC mostly for games. That's totally fair, but I would definitely recommend that you try installing games on your Linux desktop as well. Proton is absolutely stunning in what they've managed to accomplish. I'm always a little surprised when a game _doesn't_ run well in Proton now. If you've got particular games that you must play that don't run well on Linux, you'll probably want to keep the Windows…

Maybe a Steam Deck could be a better game computer. BTW it's Linux under the hood anyway.

Depends on the hardware. A desktop PC can definitely have better hardware/power/cooling.

But, yes, the Steam Deck is an awesome linux gaming computer. Even better than the hardware itself, I think the Steam Deck is a _huge_ driver of Valve to improve Proton, so in a lot of ways the Steam Deck is driving forward linux desktop gaming too.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by h4ch1 »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #489
elihu wrote: post #485

I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad from Costco for about $500. The last time I bought a computer preloaded with Windows was about a decade ago. My experience so far: I turn it on, there's a license agreement. Actually, there's two. One is from Microsoft, and it's rather long but I guess it's about par for the course. Then there's the Lenovo license agreement, which is actually a bunch of other license agreements concaten…

> I guess I'll crawl back into my cave and keep using Linux for the foreseeable future. Apple makes laptops, TV streamers, and tablets. Is there some reason you're avoiding them?

I don't know about OP but they're significantly more expensive for me (non-US; Asia) than any other offerings, that I feel like I'm being scammed. That with more subscriptions for anything I might want to use (Spotify/Netflix/Prime) just make it kind of a pinch, and so for a lot of people in my country.

Edit: for ex: the $799 iPad pro costs an equivalent of $994.35 in India.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by pif »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #489
elihu wrote: post #485

I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad from Costco for about $500. The last time I bought a computer preloaded with Windows was about a decade ago. My experience so far: I turn it on, there's a license agreement. Actually, there's two. One is from Microsoft, and it's rather long but I guess it's about par for the course. Then there's the Lenovo license agreement, which is actually a bunch of other license agreements concaten…

> I guess I'll crawl back into my cave and keep using Linux for the foreseeable future. Apple makes laptops, TV streamers, and tablets. Is there some reason you're avoiding them?

> Apple makes laptops, TV streamers, and tablets. Is there some reason you're avoiding them?

Yes: Apple.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by oblio »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #472
oblio wrote: post #450

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> Now laptops are a different matter. And laptops are most client PCs sold these days, people barely buy desktops anymore: https://www.canalys.com/newsroom/global-pc-market-Q4-2021 Linux is skating where the puck has been.

Meh, my latest laptops, which are your bog-standard HP enterprise models, both worked better when new under Linux than under Windows. One of them, AMD-based, "only" had some issue with the USB hub to which the webcam and light sensor are connected. It otherwise worked OK. On the OOB Windows install which came with the PC from the factory, the backlight couldn't go up all the day and was a horribly dim affair. It was…

> The only "config file fiddling" I did was actually Xorg, but that's because I insisted on remapping CAPS to Hyper and using a mac-style US layout with the win and menu keys working as level 3 shift for easier French typing. How do you even do that under windows?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=102...

I've been using Linux and Windows for a long time.

A lot of Linux enthusiasts are frankly uninformed about Windows power functions.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by chinaman425 »

elihu wrote: post #485

I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad from Costco for about $500. The last time I bought a computer preloaded with Windows was about a decade ago. My experience so far: I turn it on, there's a license agreement. Actually, there's two. One is from Microsoft, and it's rather long but I guess it's about par for the course. Then there's the Lenovo license agreement, which is actually a bunch of other license agreements concaten…

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Re: The day Windows died

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Post by modeless »

devjab wrote: post #402
apatheticonion wrote: post #332

It's really sad that there is no where for us to go in the desktop OS space right now. I, weirdly, daily drive all 3 OSes. MacOS; Work issued laptop and longish-time user (about 6 years with it). Windows; Desktop PC mostly for games. I've been using Windows since I could walk. Fedora; Desktop PC, dual booted which I use for most everything else. I cannot believe how much of a dumpster fire Windows has become. From th…

> but no matter how much I love it, Linux is janky. I see this a little bit different. I have ADHD and this relates to my operating system because I tend to go with the path of least resistance a little more so than my peers, or at least that's my anecdotal experience. Which means I haven't used Linux for a loooong time, exactly because it's janky. Where Linux is improving, however, both Windows and MacOS aren't. Mac…

Have you tried Proton on Linux? The days of needing Windows for gaming are over now.

It's all thanks to Valve's work on the Steam Deck, but it works just as well for desktop Linux too. All you have to do is install Steam and then enable Proton for the Windows games you want to play. Some of my games even work better on Linux under Proton than they do on Windows. For your specific games, I see people saying Diablo works and Blood Bowl is marked as compatible.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by chinaman425 »

thejackgoode wrote: post #464
safety1st wrote: post #353

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This post is basically about the author's nostalgia for his early days of computing with Windows 95 and how he wanted his son to have the same experience. This post is screaming out for Linux. Linux is the solution to his dilemma. If he reformats that drive and puts say Kubuntu on it - the kid's first PC experience is going to be a vaguely retro 90's style shell with a start menu, the start menu is going to have a Ga…

>Linux is the solution to his dilemma Introducing a child to an environment where almost nothing works out of the box is also borderline risking developing a repulsion for life, you know

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Re: The day Windows died

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Post by h4ch1 »

IIsi50MHz wrote: post #293
ProjectArcturis wrote: post #170

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And 3rd-party apps like Everything are lightning fast, so it's certainly possible to have fast Windows search. I'm genuinely buffaloed as to why MSFT hasn't fixed this obvious flaw in the last 20 years.

VoidTools Everything FTW. Naming things using /common words is a wee pet peeve, but the software is pretty great. Just a few random things are either mouse-only, or a sequence of focus-shifting keystrokes.

That integrated with Powertoys Run is actually a lifesaver. Can't remember the last time I used Windows Search

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by emsixteen »

blkhawk wrote: post #424
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #403

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This is very much true. The first time I had mouse scrollwheel issues on Linux, I was just casually told to create a bash file to change config settings. Not user friendly at all.

why is that user-unfriendly? Didn't it work? Did you miss the ads and the tracking you cannot turn off, updates that ninja-popup and log your PC for half an hour if you not careful for half a second while writing something or the simplicity of selecting the type of user you want to setup by pulling the network cable or disabling your wifi?

Completely and utterly missing the point. That comment needs nothing beyond the first question.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by h4ch1 »

ummonk wrote: post #366
qbasic_forever wrote: post #65

Setup your 10 year old with bleeding edge Arch Linux, add a script to automatically update nightly (or even hourly lol), and give them a secondary device like a tablet loaded up with access to arch wiki, every man page, etc. but nothing else. They will be an absolute Linux wizard in months and maybe a core contributor soon after.

Setup your 10 year old with a ChatGPT and Midjourney subscription instead so they become a talented prompt engineer instead of a systems engineering neckbeard.

missing /s ?
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