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Re: The day Windows died

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Post by ChancyChance »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #276
ChancyChance wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't rant further, but Linux really is the best universal dev platform. I mean this in terms of examples, support, and tendency for developers to create tools, toolchains, and ecosystems from the commandline. This is because serious developers need CI/CD flows, and that is something that can only be done efficiently from the commandline, and the Mac POSIX system (with brew and macports) can emulate Linux almost s…

You are saying that Linux is best for Web Developers and server management. But not necessarily anything else.

Um, no. I'm not saying that at all. In your case: if all you know is web, then that is all you'll see. I've used *nix for: all things cloud, distributed computing, scientific computing, machine learning, any kind of research, embedded, automotive, aeronautical, (oddly not CNC), CAD, physics simulation, circuit simulation, CPU design, etc...

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Post by charcircuit »

hparadiz wrote: post #229
charcircuit wrote: post #196

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EAC has worked on Linux for like a decade. That doesn't mean that those games will let you play on Linux.

That's patently untrue. There were a few kernel patches necessary only a year ago to make certain EAC games work. Here are all the games I play regularly with no problem: - League of Legends - Counter-Strike Global Offensive - Apex Legends - VRChat - Civilization VI - Factorio - RimWorld - Path of Exile - Skyrim - Final Fantasy XIV And my performance is usually better.

>There were a few kernel patches necessary only a year ago to make certain EAC games work.

You are thinking of getting the Windows version of EAC working. EAC has had a wine version for a long time. EAC will detect if you are using wine and try and download the wine version.

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Post by IIsi50MHz »

ProjectArcturis wrote: post #170
tester756 wrote: post #17

Windows 11 start menu search is slowest shit i've ever seen I can't stand when I type app name (e.g paint or vs) and it appears but click needs like 5-10 sec to be registered what the hell It worked perfectly fine on Win10 on the same hardware (my OS has been updated recently either automatically or by company). I'd call Windows 11 pretty OK once you tweak one or two things in register settings, maybe the lack of rig…

And 3rd-party apps like Everything are lightning fast, so it's certainly possible to have fast Windows search. I'm genuinely buffaloed as to why MSFT hasn't fixed this obvious flaw in the last 20 years.

VoidTools Everything FTW. Naming things using /common words is a wee pet peeve, but the software is pretty great. Just a few random things are either mouse-only, or a sequence of focus-shifting keystrokes.

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Post by EntrePrescott »

DonHopkins wrote: post #32
josephcsible wrote: post #20

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> That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. It's not an either-or. Both of those are super anti-consumer. If you want an OS without anti-consumer "features", then install Linux.

Linux is only free if your time is worthless. ;)

that sounds like you either never tried Linux… or maybe sometimes 25 years ago. The reality is (and has been for quite a long time) that Linux actually takes far LESS time than Windows. Heck, when I see the type of shitty problems I hear from Windows users, I wonder why they put up with it.

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Post by hakfoo »

nashashmi wrote: post #47
doctor_eval wrote: post #13

Having never lived in a Windows world I had no idea what life was like on the other side. So many times on HN I read about how MacOS is bad for the user, locked down, rubbish etc etc. But if this article is true then Windows 11 is absolutely insane. That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. Not poor documentation. Not first party apps. While those of us who use Apple’s OS fear for the worst, those in Windows ap…

That was life when vendors would pre install all sorts of crap. Then you would do a fresh install of windows and lose all of those stuff. (Tears!) Now this comes by default with windows. I think Microsoft too is feeling the blandness of its product without vendor crapware.

There was a time when Microsoft themselves realized the crapware experience sucked.

Back in the Windows 8 days, Microsoft had a few physical mall shops trying to capture some of the Apple Store magic. One of their selling points was "Signature PCs"-- guaranteed to have nothing on there but Windows and drivers, no vendor bloat.

Strange they don't recognize the spam when it's coming from inside the ~~house~~ multinational.

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Post by acomjean »

localghost3000 wrote: post #167

I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…

As someone who replaced a 2014 MacBook Pro with a system 76 oryx pro. The oryx does get warmer and has terrible battery life, but mine is currently 4 years and and working fine. It’s significantly faster than the mac (it’s newer) and can play games (it has a fairly decent video card). You can do unreal development on it.

A more apt comparison would be that MacBook with a pangolin amd 5600? machine. It’s much better on battery, has the same ports. It’s been my daily driver work machine for almost a year. I’m not going back to Mac or windows if I can help it.

The 2015 MacBooks were the greatest apple machines, but I doubt they’ll get any support in a couple years

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Post by dahinds »

afavour wrote: post #100
qbasic_forever wrote: post #65

Setup your 10 year old with bleeding edge Arch Linux, add a script to automatically update nightly (or even hourly lol), and give them a secondary device like a tablet loaded up with access to arch wiki, every man page, etc. but nothing else. They will be an absolute Linux wizard in months and maybe a core contributor soon after.

And they won’t be able to complete their school work

Really? All my daughter needs for school is access to a decent browser.

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Post by AdeptusAquinas »

petilon wrote: post #258
localghost3000 wrote: post #167

I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…

> despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value What extra up front cost? The Macbook Air costs $799 at BestBuy. Do you mean to say a similar quality Windows machine costs less? Only Samsung makes computers that are comparable to the Macbook. This Samsung [2] arguably has a better screen but costs $1450. (There are cheaper Samsungs but they don't have 200% screen resolution.) [1] https://www.bestbuy.…

Hmm, I'd say the Surface line are the direct competitors, and have real nice quality. Better keyboards and a nicer screen form factor 3:2. Was quite a fan of the Surface Book 2, and recently picked up a Laptop Go which is great, for less than a Macbook Air.

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Post by hakfoo »

MBCook wrote: post #155
mikerg87 wrote: post #23

It’s not Windows. It’s the broken social contract the entire PC industry has in believing it’s ok flood us with ads and surveillance driven “marketing”. Any retail PC is a sewer of bloat and crap ware.

People want low prices, and care about little else. Possibly because it’s simply one of the easiest to understand metrics. How does a Ryzen 4678v compare to an i12363k? I follow computers and have no idea. Price matters a lot even if you do know all the ultra-technical things. How do you make computers cheaper than the next guy? Subsidizing. Who will pay? Ads and internet companies. People complain Apple stuff is ove…

I always found it interesting how every business that used to sell a product based on demonstratable customer value and quality user experiences wants to instead cling to the ad industry.

Whether or not there's a little more money to be had there now is somewhat irrelevant. The bigger deal is that advertising is a hyper-fickle industry, very much subject to tossing out babies, bathwater, bathtubs, and entire metropolitan water infrastructures in a single fell swoop. There's a clear and identifiable risk factor here.

Somewhere, at the end of the line, there's someone actually writing checks for to ad service providers, who's going to ask "We're spending (collectively) 829 kazillion dollars to feed these adtech gigaunicorns, basically out of FOMO that we had to be more data-driven than our competitiors. Did this actually move $829 kazillion more Pepsi than just running a 30-second TV spot with a hot boy band would have?"

When the bubble bursts, how many otherwise viable products are going to implode because they've become too financially dependent on ad/data sales, or have become so eroded by the compromises for ads that they won't be able to recover their reputation after the adpocalypse?

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Post by localghost3000 »

acomjean wrote: post #296
localghost3000 wrote: post #167

I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…

As someone who replaced a 2014 MacBook Pro with a system 76 oryx pro. The oryx does get warmer and has terrible battery life, but mine is currently 4 years and and working fine. It’s significantly faster than the mac (it’s newer) and can play games (it has a fairly decent video card). You can do unreal development on it. A more apt comparison would be that MacBook with a pangolin amd 5600? machine. It’s much better o…

> It’s much better on battery

This is not my experience. At best I'd get a few hours. If I'm using the GPU? An hour or so.

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