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Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by Fatnino »

davidw wrote: post #25
mherdeg wrote: post #11

Bird and Lime will always have a special place in my heart for inspiring the last silly season political debate before covid in our town. The very first day rental escooters were legal in town the company hosted demonstration had someone fall off in the town hall parking lot and require hospitalization. It was all so silly and things only went sideways from there. I saved tens of minutes over the course of a summer t…

Bird Bikes were a regular feature on Nextdoor where I live. Lots of hand wringing about them while completely ignoring the lifted pickups with hoods taller than most children.

You mean taller than many adults.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by rolenthedeep »

Freedom2 wrote: post #46
mherdeg wrote: post #11

Bird and Lime will always have a special place in my heart for inspiring the last silly season political debate before covid in our town. The very first day rental escooters were legal in town the company hosted demonstration had someone fall off in the town hall parking lot and require hospitalization. It was all so silly and things only went sideways from there. I saved tens of minutes over the course of a summer t…

> Pour one out for the micromobility startups' dreams and may whatever comes next be as delightfully odd as those things were. Could you elaborate on this? I'm not sure what Homebrew has to do with rental scooters...

"pour one out" is a reference to pouring an alcoholic drink on the ground to respect the memory of someone who died and can't take the drink.

Poster is implying that startups like bird and lime are dead or dying.

This is basically just "Fs in chat for rental scooters"

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by rhaway84773 »

arijun wrote: post #47

I would like to provide a contrasting viewpoint. I can’t speak to the situation in Paris, but in the city I live in, scooters are amazing. They reduce car usage which is better for both pedestrians and car users. They turn a 45 minute walk/30 minute bus ride/20 minute cab into a 10-15 minute trip, which opens up much more of the city (the city I live in was not built for the number of cars it has in it so getting any…

The real problem with scooters is cuties unwilling to provide them with proper infrastructure. Bike lanes in most cities (out of the better European cycling cities), tend to be narrow and about 1/4 - 1/3 the size of a car lane.

If a city were to dedicate a single car lane sized lane for “micromobility” and responded quickly to damage to this lane (which wouldn’t be as frequent for the obvious reason that damage is proportional to weight, and scooters and bikes are way lighter than cars), scooters would not be a problem at all.

A city may decide it doesn’t want dockless scooters, but even that problem could be resolved by replacing 1 car parking spot on every street into a scooter/bike dock.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by meghan_rain »

rhaway84773 wrote: post #83
arijun wrote: post #47

I would like to provide a contrasting viewpoint. I can’t speak to the situation in Paris, but in the city I live in, scooters are amazing. They reduce car usage which is better for both pedestrians and car users. They turn a 45 minute walk/30 minute bus ride/20 minute cab into a 10-15 minute trip, which opens up much more of the city (the city I live in was not built for the number of cars it has in it so getting any…

The real problem with scooters is cuties unwilling to provide them with proper infrastructure. Bike lanes in most cities (out of the better European cycling cities), tend to be narrow and about 1/4 - 1/3 the size of a car lane. If a city were to dedicate a single car lane sized lane for “micromobility” and responded quickly to damage to this lane (which wouldn’t be as frequent for the obvious reason that damage is pr…

cuties ^_^

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by dxscorp »

mherdeg wrote: post #11

Bird and Lime will always have a special place in my heart for inspiring the last silly season political debate before covid in our town. The very first day rental escooters were legal in town the company hosted demonstration had someone fall off in the town hall parking lot and require hospitalization. It was all so silly and things only went sideways from there. I saved tens of minutes over the course of a summer t…

Was this Brookline? I vaguely remember something like this

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by hackerlight »

bombolo wrote: post #49
hackerlight wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cars are far more dangerous, no?

Do people often park 5 cars between you and your door so that you have to walk over them to go inside? Didn't think so.

Cars take up more physical space, require public infrastructure that takes up significant taxpayer funding, tie up policing resources that take taxpayer funding, pollute noxious gas and sound that actively damage my health, contribute to global warming, and they are a lethal risk to others not just an "ouch you broke my leg by hitting into me" risk. There is no comparison.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ihaveajob wrote: post #88

Low turnout elections are antidemocratic by nature. I'd venture there are many more e-scooter users in Paris than voters in this referendum.

> low turnout elections are antidemocratic

This is a feature. Democracy is government by the people. Not by their whimsy. If it isn’t worth the inconvenience of voting, that might be a sign.

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