Yep. It's a goner.
It'll live on in corporate environments and XBoxes.
The day Windows died
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#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linux is only free if your time is worthless. ;)
Does that mean that paying for an OS means your time has negative value? Surely the time spent installing, configuring, and messing around with your personal desktop or laptop after already having paid for a complete OS is tantamount to buying a prebuilt PC, taking it apart, and putting it back together with a few missing screws. Zero is still greater than any negative number.
The argument is that you will lose relatively less money from the time wasted. So instead of wasting $1000 worth of time, you only are wasting $200 of time.
An operating system that lets you waste less money, means that you will save money. Saving money is what can make purchasing something worth it.
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#193Bought a preowned lowend MBA for my 11 year old daughter recently.
No shes not spoiled, her iPhone is an old hand me down with cracked screen.
No way on earth I’d expose her to the cr*p from Redmond.
Yes, I know what it’s like, my employer is a 99% Window environment.
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#194I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…
I had a 2018 MBP that also got as hot of the surface of the sun. Literally SCRIBBLING with the pencil on a blank canvas in Corel Painter for 30 seconds would send the CPU to 90 C. I got lucky with the keyboard on mine but I know quite a few people who weren't or were affected by flexgate.
You're right about about resale value. Cult of Apple and all that.
I get that looks are subjective but personally I find everything they've made post 2003 to be insanely boring with no real character.
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#195I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…
Ever seen a thinkpad?
Yes. I own two. A t410 and a t450. Definitely more durable but no resale value. I use them for experimental linux installs these days.
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is irrelevant for multiplayer gaming, where the anti-cheat software only runs on Windows because it needs to establish a security baseline for all players.
Easy anti cheat works in linux now. Most games now just work
EAC has worked on Linux for like a decade. That doesn't mean that those games will let you play on Linux.
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#197Having never lived in a Windows world I had no idea what life was like on the other side. So many times on HN I read about how MacOS is bad for the user, locked down, rubbish etc etc. But if this article is true then Windows 11 is absolutely insane. That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. Not poor documentation. Not first party apps. While those of us who use Apple’s OS fear for the worst, those in Windows ap…
both in MacOS and in Windows you are mere cattle there is no reason to keep using a walled, closed desktop OS in the 2020s
The weird revelation to me was that the goal of what a decent OS is keeps moving, even as what we want to do doesn't change much in nature.
20 years ago I was on FreeBSD and it was fine. But as laptops became mainstream, and even the main linux distros were completely impractical.
Now we have really good linux laptops, but tablet form computers are maturing and we're starting to see very good ones, and linux support is still generations behind (heck, windows support is still meh)
I'd expect linux to be viable there in 4 or 5 years, when the dust settles, but then will the compatibility extend to the machines on the better form factors of that time ?
Basically "the year of linux on the desktop" meme has stopped being about sheer viability and more about what you're willing to give up to keep using linux. As long as it doesn't become the primary target of the more innovative hardware makers out there, I wouldn't expect to solve this situation anytime soon.
The frame laptop is a move in that direction.
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is irrelevant for multiplayer gaming, where the anti-cheat software only runs on Windows because it needs to establish a security baseline for all players.
Easy anti cheat works in linux now. Most games now just work
Don't some big publishers of 'important' trendy multiplayer games with strong network effects still basically refuse to enable EAC's Linux support, though?
Do you know any recent articles or blog posts summarizing the state of affairs with competitive multiplayer games rn?
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#19940 years ago, I bought a Mac and my girlfriend bought a PC. She said of my mac "what a cute toy!" while hers was a "serious computer". It is incredible that 40 years later, one can have the same conversation!
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
I built a gaming PC recently, so also new to Windows (normally Linux main). I was very surprised to see advertising in the operating system, for an operating system that people pay at least $190 CAD for. This issue is made worse by every hardware vendor needing to install their own bulky applications with their own popups. It's extremely noisy. My main take is that Microsoft has lost all pride in Windows and they're…
They really advertise to you inside the operating system? I've been a Linux user for 20 years so I don't know.
I recently deleted my Windows partition, but I recall how after an update it blocked me from login in until it could tell me I really should try out Office 365, informed me Edge is better for me than whatever browser I was using (Firefox) and asked me for a Microsoft account.