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Re: The day Windows died

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Post by CharlesW »

josephcsible wrote: post #20
doctor_eval wrote: post #13

Having never lived in a Windows world I had no idea what life was like on the other side. So many times on HN I read about how MacOS is bad for the user, locked down, rubbish etc etc. But if this article is true then Windows 11 is absolutely insane. That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. Not poor documentation. Not first party apps. While those of us who use Apple’s OS fear for the worst, those in Windows ap…

> That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. It's not an either-or. Both of those are super anti-consumer. If you want an OS without anti-consumer "features", then install Linux.

> Both of those are super anti-consumer.

That’s like saying air bags are anti-consumer. Two differences between air bags and SIP: Consumers don’t know SIP exists, and anyone savvy enough to understand the esoteric reasons for needing to disable SIP can do that.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by jiggawatts »

tester756 wrote: post #17

Windows 11 start menu search is slowest shit i've ever seen I can't stand when I type app name (e.g paint or vs) and it appears but click needs like 5-10 sec to be registered what the hell It worked perfectly fine on Win10 on the same hardware (my OS has been updated recently either automatically or by company). I'd call Windows 11 pretty OK once you tweak one or two things in register settings, maybe the lack of rig…

As a life-long Windows user, the most frustrating part is how broken search is, and always has been, but… in new and unique ways in every version I’ve ever used!

It’s astonishing: they’re clearly working on it, making material changes, but only ever sideways. I’ve never observed an improvement.

To those people that say “version x has worked”: I doubt it. Maybe after a month it successfully indexed the 100KB of text in your start menu. Maybe you just got used to what search terms work, and forgot about it. But I assure you that it has never “just worked”.

I still have a habit of searching for “management” in the start menu because if I type “SQL”, it won’t ever find “SQL Management Studio”.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by josephcsible »

smcin wrote: post #88
stavros wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically whatever runs Steam, if you want to play games.

Sure, but Steam doesn't run natively, and is very heavy on battery and GPU. So it isn't good for playing on a laptop when mobile; signficantly worse to native game binary running on a tablet or laptop.

> Steam doesn't run natively

What do you mean by this?

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by mostlysimilar »

nashashmi wrote: post #27
tester756 wrote: post #17

Windows 11 start menu search is slowest shit i've ever seen I can't stand when I type app name (e.g paint or vs) and it appears but click needs like 5-10 sec to be registered what the hell It worked perfectly fine on Win10 on the same hardware (my OS has been updated recently either automatically or by company). I'd call Windows 11 pretty OK once you tweak one or two things in register settings, maybe the lack of rig…

It worked perfectly fine in windows 7. And then it got screwed up in windows 10.

Truly, what has happened here? Windows search was so good circa 7. It is astoundingly awful in 10.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by katbyte »

josephcsible wrote: post #20
doctor_eval wrote: post #13

Having never lived in a Windows world I had no idea what life was like on the other side. So many times on HN I read about how MacOS is bad for the user, locked down, rubbish etc etc. But if this article is true then Windows 11 is absolutely insane. That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. Not poor documentation. Not first party apps. While those of us who use Apple’s OS fear for the worst, those in Windows ap…

> That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. It's not an either-or. Both of those are super anti-consumer. If you want an OS without anti-consumer "features", then install Linux.

how is SIP "super anti-consumer"? You can easily turn it off if you want to. AFAIK there are no repercussions if you do even other then your computer being more susceptible to malware.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by magpi3 »

superchroma wrote: post #133

"windows is dead because it has ads in the start menu (that you can turn off), it ships with unwanted apps and doesn't ship with properly free games" Profound, truly. This is of course completely forgetting the era when every prebuilt would ship with crapware, completely omitting the fact that via giveaways on places like GoG and EGS, children have access to more free games in one year than I was bought in my entire…

>This is of course completely forgetting the era when every prebuilt would ship with crapware

This was a clean Windows install, not one that came from an OEM. Clean Window installs at least used to be exactly that: they came with nothing but Windows.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by booleandilemma »

DonHopkins wrote: post #32
josephcsible wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. It's not an either-or. Both of those are super anti-consumer. If you want an OS without anti-consumer "features", then install Linux.

Linux is only free if your time is worthless. ;)

Over the last 10 years or so, I'd try out Linux for a week, get frustrated for one reason or another, and then switch back to Windows.

Back in February I decided to try Linux Mint again, and this time it worked, and I haven't switched back to Windows yet. I think Linux is starting to get good, even for someone like me, who doesn't want to become a part-time Linux admin.

(Your joke still made me laugh, for the record)

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by bee_rider »

amiga-workbench wrote: post #94
bee_rider wrote: post #19

I use 10, but only as essentially a glorified console. Time for work? Time to boot into the Linux partition. I look vaguely fondly back on XP, 98, and 95… but at least, XP was pretty bad with frequent crashes. And of course the idea of security was added on afterwards, which was not really successful and kind of a dumb idea. Anyway I think the death-date of Windows is essentially a personal thing. It is the first day…

Same here, but I only boot into Windows for VR. I'm waiting for Valve to stop hyperfocusing on the Steam Deck and get SteamVR to behave well under Linux. Once that happens I can bin Windows off for good.

I made the mistake it getting a Rift, it is gathering dust now that Facebook has gotten their creepy hands on it.

I wonder if Linux is a fundamentally much better platform for VR than windows? The problems are mostly latency related, right? And the openness of the platform means that Valve can really tinker to their hearts’ content.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by Zurrrrr »

doctor_eval wrote: post #13

Having never lived in a Windows world I had no idea what life was like on the other side. So many times on HN I read about how MacOS is bad for the user, locked down, rubbish etc etc. But if this article is true then Windows 11 is absolutely insane. That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. Not poor documentation. Not first party apps. While those of us who use Apple’s OS fear for the worst, those in Windows ap…

The thing is, those claims about MacOS have been true for some time, while Windows becoming this bad is a relatively recent thing. 10 was the start, and 11 was a huge escalation.
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