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Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#51

Paris has such well-built bike infrastructure, it's a huge shame to ban scooters, which fit into bike lanes perfectly well.

You've never been to Paris, have you? It's a death trap for cyclists.

When were you there last? I hear the city has almost completely transformed itself when it comes to bicycle infrastructure in the last two to three years.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#54

> She said on Sunday that their business model was "very expensive -- five euros for 10 minutes -- it's not very sustainable, and above all, it's the cause of a lot of accidents." It must be great to have a wise mayor in the government who calls out "expensive business models". > currently be hired by children as young as 12 When I went there, I read the Lime, Dott, etc rules and they all said 16, some 18+. Where did…

> When I went there, I read the Lime, Dott, etc rules and they all said 16, some 18+. Where did they get 12 yo from? I don't live in Paris, but this random website that seems to offer scooter rentals say 12 years old: https://rentngo.fr/en/home/

This seems to be a scooter-tour-type thing. If you walk around the city, most of what you see is Lime, Tier and Dott, the ones the article talks about.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#55

I hope this becomes EU-wide. Every season it seems like there's a new generation that discovers and abuses them to no end, endangering everybody around.

> Every season it seems like there's a new generation that discovers and abuses them to no end, endangering everybody around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September in meatspace.

Myspace went the other way around: spray paint was invented first.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#56
post #24

Why not just go with e bikes

Blue Vélib’(electric) are a staple of Parisian (and many other cities) transportation system. https://www.velib-metropole.fr/en/service

So this website says 14 years is the minimum age. Honest question, how is a 14-year-old safer in Parisian traffic on an e-bike than a scooter? You can easily go on sidewalks with bikes, too, if you are so inclined, and falling off into the traffic or hitting someone doesn't seem any less problematic?

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#57
post #9

London meanwhile, continues to ban personally owned e-scooters - allowing only rental e-scooters!

From personal experience even police don’t care. Just don’t do anything too dangerous,I guess. In a way it’s better to operate in a legal gray zone because you don’t need to worry about things like licenses and insurance and fines etc.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think cars are a lot worse, if we just took those off the street there's be no problem with people scooting on the streets

So that's a whole other debate (and I disagree), but even if you're right, getting rid of cars would be a gradual, multi-decade project. It's just not possible to get around modern American cities without cars. You can't just abandon the city. These cities represent trillions of dollars of investment. Otoh, you could ban e-scooters tomorrow and after dramatically improving various urban areas, the biggest effect woul…

I don't actually want to get rid of cars, I was just pointing out how ridiculous your argument sounds.

I want people to have options, and for large cities to promote less environmentally destructive modes of transportation that are also more accessible and take up less space. Yeah, maybe you see people leaving scooters on the sidewalks; I see shared use of public infrastructure that doesn't have to have large amounts of space dedicated for 'parking'

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#60
post #47

I would like to provide a contrasting viewpoint. I can’t speak to the situation in Paris, but in the city I live in, scooters are amazing. They reduce car usage which is better for both pedestrians and car users. They turn a 45 minute walk/30 minute bus ride/20 minute cab into a 10-15 minute trip, which opens up much more of the city (the city I live in was not built for the number of cars it has in it so getting any…

I used the lime scotters in Paris 4 years ago, in the pre pandemic times. Oddly useful the few times I used them. Though some Vandal was drawing over the qr codes, make some of them unusable.

I see them in Cambridge where Harvard students own them and zip across the river to the athletic center.

The can go quite fast and as a biker then can be annoying when the try to go past you at 20 mph, but honestly in the bike lane is probably the best place for them

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