Every country with machismo should have a movement like this.
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#12> The repercussions of the so-called “birth strike” have been severe for the country. For three consecutive years, the country has had the lowest fertility rate in the world, with an average of 0.78 children per woman.
How much of that can be attributed to the birth strike considering South Korea's fertility rate started its latest downward spiral in 2016 and two out of those three years had heavily-enforced lockdowns?
Over here the government passed draconian anti-abortion laws, but that didn't have an immediate effect. Other things, like economic uncertainty were the main driver.
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#14Well. That president was elected by the population. Half of which is female.
And?
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#15In 2019, the 4B movement claimed to have 4,000 members! This is 0.016% of the women in South Korea!
I'm going to assume (because I think it's very likely) that a large number of these were already not having much sex ("incels") nor planning on getting married. I'm also going to assume that many of these women who now claim they are remaining celibate are actually having sex anyway, as abstaining from sex is difficult to do (unless it comes naturally to you, in which case it's having sex that seems impossible!)
In other words, this is a human interest story about basically nothing, that tries to normalize a fringe group and freak everyone out about it. Or, to be more charitable, it's an article about something that's happening within all genders in many countries (see MGTOW in America, for example), and is also about the fact that women still aren't treated equitably in South Korea.
I don't see the point other than clicks. Beware articles about problems or trends that neglect to quantify anything.
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#16Every country with machismo should have a movement like this.
> South Korea > Machismo
To be fair, they use the same word in the article. Perhaps machismo is relative.
“Many South Korean women are so fed up with machismo that, in recent years, they’ve taken up a radical stance: refusing to marry, date men, have sex and reproduce.”
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#17I find it interesting that in parallel, I see a shockingly feminine Korean man in an ad every day here in Hong Kong. The Chinese government has banned effeminate men in media, and the mass self-emasculation of men chasing fashion trends is a legitimate national security concern!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/09/02/c...
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#18> The repercussions of the so-called “birth strike” have been severe for the country. For three consecutive years, the country has had the lowest fertility rate in the world, with an average of 0.78 children per woman. How much of that can be attributed to the birth strike considering South Korea's fertility rate started its latest downward spiral in 2016 and two out of those three years had heavily-enforced lockdown…
Basically none.
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#19Could it be that one of the reasons that we have sexual inequality is that over generations the people most concerned about it reproduce less than the people least concerned about it -- who pass on those attitudes to their progeny?
If love-of-justice tends to suppress fertility then the descendant populations will have a lower love-of-justice than otherwise.
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#20Before reading this I assumed the biggest reason for Korean birthrate decline was that they don't allow enough immigrants, which is how some other developed countries handle it. I've heard only anecdotally from friends about the feminist movements and inequality faced, but the stats in this post sort of make clear the enormous problem of gender inequality in Korea. And furthermore it contrasts Korea with how other de…
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