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Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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The actual prize in the conflict is access to the European energy market, economically speaking. It's about Russian pipeline gas vs. US LNG tanker gas, and it's about where the money spent on those fossil fuels will be deposited - London & New York banks, or Moscow? This is why the Saudi war on Yemen has been ignored. The reality is that if Putin had taken the deal offered in 2003 (Exxon buying >50% of Russian oil pr…

If the Mexican army raped and bombed their way across Texas towards California, should we just shrug and point out those lands were taken under historically dubious circumstances and we should let them have the U.S. Southwest?

Well, it was the American army that took over Texas, wasn't it?

A lot depends on what the local population wants, I think. The Vietnamese population didn't want to be ruled by a puppet government controlled by France the USA, hence the active armed resistance to the French and US miltary occupation (1950s-1970s). The Afghan population didn't want to be ruled by the Soviet Union, or by the United States, hence the active resistance to Russian control in the 1980s and to American control in the first two decades of this century.

Now, you could say the Americans in Vietnam tried to rape and beat the population into submission to imperial rule, and that the Soviets tried to do that in Afghanistan, and that's called wartime propaganda. The actual goals of both of those occupations were fundamentally economic in nature, but that's a taboo subject (starting a war for economic gain being a Class A War Crime in terms of international legal precedents).

It does seem pretty clear however that the Russian-speaking eastern Ukrainian/Crimean population doesn't want to be ruled by Kyiv, doesn't it? So just draw a new border and end the conflict.

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Joining the military means giving up most of your civilian rights laid out in the Bill of Rights, in exchange for pay and training. Historically, this has often been a pretty good deal for those without other economic options. However, if you think the country's leaders are going to send you off to get killed in poorly thought-out and reckless adventures for dubious reasons, then giving up those rights starts looking…

> Joining the military means giving up most of your civilian rights laid out in the Bill of Rights, in exchange for pay and training. This isn't true. I didn't lose my rights when I was enlisted. There are more rules and responsibilities but the rights weren't removed.

UCMJ does not have civilian protections of civilian courts (though it may questionable what really still exists there).

No, you don't have the right of free speech in the military. Though apparently dresses are now ok.

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Regarding #1, you can get a waiver for past cannabis use if you weren't a habitual user (by self admission) and never faced any legal action (distribution, possession, etc) in regards to cannabis. If you have ever distributed any drug (even so far as splitting the cost of drugs with a roommate) you cannot enlist. The enlistment screeners are surprisingly effective at getting people to admit things they did over a dec…

>If you admit to ever using LSD or psychedelics, even one time, you will be automatically disqualified from serving in the military or law enforcement (go figure). Is this documented anywhere? I have gone on a psilocybin retreat and have considered a career in the air force in the distant future.

Just don’t tell them.

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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What do you mean regarding Ukraine? Do you mean the US should have persuaded Ukraine to give up some of their land? I don’t fully understand what you mean with ‘negotiated settlement’. All I know is these ‘negotiating’ strategies don’t work with tyrannical regimes. Germany tried and failed. Trying to bring in China into the world economy also didn’t seem to make them give up their hunger to swallow Taiwan. The mindse…

> I don’t fully understand what you mean with ‘negotiated settlement’. He may be thinking of the agreement that Putin and Zelensky almost came to in the 2nd week of the war. The Israeli prime minister, Naftali Bennett, initiated contact between the leaders and thinks they were nearly at a settlement when Washington/London intervened to block it. (From about time 2:20:00, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK9tLDeWBzs )

That has been taken out of context. He later clarified that Washington and London were nudging Ukraine towards a peace deal, but after Bucha massacre was uncovered, they stopped doing that and instead increased military support for Ukraine. Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-bennett-walks-back-cl...

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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If someone is overweight, but otherwise healthy (which I suspect is the case for a lot of young people, as they haven't been overweight long enough for it to take a big toll on the body) can they not go ahead and enrol them and then whip them into shape during training? If they are really aren't able to meet their recruiting targets it seems like a missed opportunity.

It may depend how overweight and if the person is otherwise fit. A fat guy in my platoon had last name 'Lay' which led to hilarious potato chip and family history rants by instructors. He lost a lot of fat.

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Quite literally survivorship bias. Anecdotes aside, the statistics are damning. https://stopsoldiersuicide.org/vet-stats > Over 40,000 veterans are homeless on any given night > Veterans are at 57% higher risk of suicide than those who haven't served. > "Depending on branch, up to 31% of service members develop PTSD after returning from combat." ; "The rate of suicide for veterans in the LGBTQ+ community is up to 7x…

The United States made a choice to have a contract military after Vietnam, under Nixon - the "All Volunteer Force". We could revert to a national draft, which is my preference, for National Defense. I was in the Army and deployed to Afghanistan and have my own issues and my friends (dead and alive) have their own as well. I agree with you if your point is that the US Government doesn't do enough for veterans. In a mo…

A draft implements slavery.

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Minus the concentration and motivation parts, so does does coffee, tea and other caffeine based products but you don’t see anyone clamouring to ban those.

Throughout history there were many coffee bans, so it's not like nobody thought about it.

I worked as a barista for years so I know a fair amount about coffee but the historical legality and prohibition of it is actually something I know very little about. Think I am going to do some Wikipedia browsing this afternoon!

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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> Joining the military means giving up most of your civilian rights laid out in the Bill of Rights, in exchange for pay and training. This isn't true. I didn't lose my rights when I was enlisted. There are more rules and responsibilities but the rights weren't removed.

UCMJ does not have civilian protections of civilian courts (though it may questionable what really still exists there). No, you don't have the right of free speech in the military. Though apparently dresses are now ok.

How do you not have the right of free speech in the military? This does not match my experience.

Edit: My experience in the military is of course not complete. It's very possible I'm missing something.

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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>If you admit to ever using LSD or psychedelics, even one time, you will be automatically disqualified from serving in the military or law enforcement (go figure). Is this documented anywhere? I have gone on a psilocybin retreat and have considered a career in the air force in the distant future.

Just don’t tell them.

Please don't give advice like this. Everything people publish on hackernews stays online forever and it's not that hard to associate with real people.

GPT5 or 6 can just get this data with a simple question in the near future.

Re: Study: 77% of young Americans too fat, mentally ill, on drugs to join military

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Yes

Do you think the US was not justified in destroying the terror camps that Al-Qaeda was operating in Afghanistan after the US was attacked on 9/11?

No. They didn't destroy the American flight schools. But even if they wanted to destroy the training camps, they did a hell of a lot more than that.
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