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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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It does ban the sale of videogames and movies though. Via the "age rating" mechanism.

Government isn't involved in that. Game and movie ratings are completely private industry practices. Your selection of distribution channels will be reduced if you don't go through the ratings process, but the government won't stop you.

For the US, yes, but some countries are more strict and do require some rating before a game is able to be legally sold, for example in Austria and France.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #395

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I'm not asking for all of our Ministers to be technocrats. They needn't be SMEs. They needn't even be a major player in the industry prior to becoming a politician. But in all honesty, a Technology Minister not having a technical background is like an Education Minister being unable to read or write. I'm not asking for some IEEE fellow with 100s of patent. I'm not even asking for a junior engineer with a couple of ye…

Of course more expertise is better when all else is equal, I thought the quote stood on its own to not be interpreted as asking for less expertise. Rather that the source of the problems is a disregard for people's rights and other more basic failures, than not understanding how an LLM works.

Right. But then, poverty is not the only problem a government wants to address, and Technology Ministry is arguably one that will spend most of its time addressing things other than poverty, at least directly, and this does benefit from expertise.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #395

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Of course more expertise is better when all else is equal, I thought the quote stood on its own to not be interpreted as asking for less expertise. Rather that the source of the problems is a disregard for people's rights and other more basic failures, than not understanding how an LLM works.

Right. But then, poverty is not the only problem a government wants to address, and Technology Ministry is arguably one that will spend most of its time addressing things other than poverty, at least directly, and this does benefit from expertise.

Everything benefits from expertise, I'm now 3 layers down repeating the same thing.

The whole point is that you don't need any tech knowledge to respect the basic ratified human right of access to information. That is all you need to not enact bans on specific websites for your country.

Being a good technologist is an advantage to such a position, obviously.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Writing from rome, italy. These bureaucrats only pretend to work. The number of privacy violations in italy is staggering, i have to take 10 calls a day from power companies because they have access to all the phone number of anybody who has a gas or energy contract. I had to change phone numbers. Meanwhile they are going against a service that as far as i know does not even require your name to serve you.

ChatGPT requires your phone number and your email. Plus they have leaked their subscribers information. I know nothing about Italy but it's not one vs the other

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This does not surprise me at all. I worked in Italy for 2 years and in Germany for 4 years. A sense of `US/CIA/NSA-phobia` is strong among many companies and is often used to justify not using US datacenters, cloud-services and SaaS tools. I have to admit I do not fully understand it, but I am inclined to think it is mostly a bias and not driven by actual risk assessments. Having conducted risk assessments and threat…

Rediculous American centric, typical ignorant view of the 500 million people and 30+ seperate countries in Europe

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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I work part time at a pizzeria. If you do this try to remember when you order food for delivery. It has become a problem with our drivers. The customer doesn’t answer the phone and our drivers spend 10 minutes trying to contact the customer (delaying the next customers order). Eventually, our drivers give up and the customer (now angry) calls back an hour later demanding their food.

I suppose they could communicate through the app which was used to order the food and/or using whatsapp.

Some people still order by calling a regular phone number, and I don‘t think forcing more centralization in the industry is a good solution.

The industry stakeholders and FCC should get together and fix caller ID authentication; the rest will follow from there.

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post #109

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I am also writing from Italy. In the last few months I have received so many spam calls from UK numbers that I have been forced to ban the whole of Britain from my phone. Good job Data Protection authority.

Report from Germany: Haven't received a spam call in years.

Unfortunately it’s getting more common there too. I‘ve received a few spoofed caller ID calls by now informing me of my "identity theft case with Interpol".

It‘s not nearly the same extent as in the US, though.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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I feel the STIR/SHAKEN changes have made a difference with spam calls for me in the US.

I don't know, my wife gets spam calls almost daily, but i almost never get spam calls. on the otherhand I almost never actually give anyone my real phone number and just give everyone my Google Voice number instead. Google seems pretty good at detecting and filtering them out. the only people with my real phone number are family members, my employer, and a few friends from high-school that had it from before i signed…

Google Voice indeed seems to be much better at spam call detection than anybody else. Most of them don’t even make it to the "spam" folder in the app for me; they must be rejected at some lower level due to very high confidence.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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I work part time at a pizzeria. If you do this try to remember when you order food for delivery. It has become a problem with our drivers. The customer doesn’t answer the phone and our drivers spend 10 minutes trying to contact the customer (delaying the next customers order). Eventually, our drivers give up and the customer (now angry) calls back an hour later demanding their food.

I suppose they could communicate through the app which was used to order the food and/or using whatsapp.

My pizzeria does not use an App. We have an online ordering webpage, or you can order through a traditional phone call.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #690

this alongside the ban on lab grown meat[0] and the recent proposed ban to use english words in government documents[1] is just proof on how antiquated and backward looking the government is. so glad i left almost 10 years ago. [EDIT] the privacy regulator is independent from the government but elected by the parliament every 7 years. nevertheless this is a testament on how in general, regardless of political party,…

I’m not Italian but if it’s a regulator that tells what you can or cannot do, then it’s government.

It's not necessarily true.

The current president of garante of privacy was chosen in 2020, while the current government has been running for less than a year.

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