These Angry Dutch Farmers Really Hate Microsoft
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#3Terrible article.
"Nitrogen, produced by cars, agriculture, and heavy machinery used in construction, can be a dangerous pollutant, damaging ecosystems and endangering people's health."
Huh? Nitrogen?
But since 2015, the country has also witnessed the arrival of enormous “hyperscalers,” buildings that generally span at least 10,000 square feet".
They may have obtained that definition from here.[1] That's not a big data center. That's a small supermarket. Large data centers today are two orders of magnitude larger.
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#4If you ask yourself what the possible benefits are for dutch people. Absolutely nothing. Companies like Microsoft have complex tax constructions so not a single cent ends up in the dutch economy. Next. These datacenters are huge energy consumers in an already scarse market. Drives prices up. Nobody wants to live close to these ugly heavily guarded places. At the same time the Netherlands faces a housing crisis often related to lack lack of suitable land. Now used by the monster buildings. There are many more important aspects why you dont want this things on your country.
I wouldnt be suprised if in this case Microsoft bribed a few non voted EU representatives to put pressure on local dutch politicians. The whole process is shady and intransparant.
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#5The EU keep pumping out these absolutely ridiculous green policies that have crippling effects locally. Recently they brought out a new energy efficiency directive which could cause up to 50% (!) of Finnish flats & houses to require sizeable renovations.
Brussels have been very effective in transforming a useful economic union into a centrally managed dystopian nightmare that a lot of people will soon be willing to burn down regardless of consequence - myself included.
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#6Terrible article. "Nitrogen, produced by cars, agriculture, and heavy machinery used in construction, can be a dangerous pollutant, damaging ecosystems and endangering people's health." Huh? Nitrogen? But since 2015, the country has also witnessed the arrival of enormous “hyperscalers,” buildings that generally span at least 10,000 square feet". They may have obtained that definition from here.[1] That's not a big da…
https://www.government.nl/topics/nature-and-biodiversity/the...
> Emissions of nitrogen oxides and ammonia have been too high in the Netherlands for many years. This causes excessive deposition of nitrogen, which is harmful for both nature and public health.
> Transport and industry are the main emitters of nitrogen oxides. Ammonia mainly comes from livestock manure and chemical fertilisers, which are used in the agriculture sector. Reducing the amount of nitrogen deposition is vital for the sake of our health, the quality of our nature areas and for the sustainability of food production. That is why the Dutch government is introducing measures for industry, agriculture, transport and the construction sector.
> A large part of the nitrogen deposition can be traced to the agriculture sector and to sources outside the Netherlands. The remainder is attributable to households, road transport, international shipping, industry, construction, energy generation and waste processing.
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#7Terrible article. "Nitrogen, produced by cars, agriculture, and heavy machinery used in construction, can be a dangerous pollutant, damaging ecosystems and endangering people's health." Huh? Nitrogen? But since 2015, the country has also witnessed the arrival of enormous “hyperscalers,” buildings that generally span at least 10,000 square feet". They may have obtained that definition from here.[1] That's not a big da…
Nitrogen run-off can be a major pollutant in waterways.
It can either be over-fertilization, or cow dung and urine.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6024564/
https://www.epa.gov/nutrientpollution/sources-and-solutions-....
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#8The EU keep pumping out these absolutely ridiculous green policies that have crippling effects locally. Recently they brought out a new energy efficiency directive which could cause up to 50% (!) of Finnish flats & houses to require sizeable renovations. Brussels have been very effective in transforming a useful economic union into a centrally managed dystopian nightmare that a lot of people will soon be willing to b…
They can only make never-effective fig leaf policies because actual good green policies would upset the applecart.
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#9The farmers are just as much in the wrong as Microsoft here. Al construction is at risk of stalling because of their excessive pollution.
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#10Terrible article. "Nitrogen, produced by cars, agriculture, and heavy machinery used in construction, can be a dangerous pollutant, damaging ecosystems and endangering people's health." Huh? Nitrogen? But since 2015, the country has also witnessed the arrival of enormous “hyperscalers,” buildings that generally span at least 10,000 square feet". They may have obtained that definition from here.[1] That's not a big da…
Nitrogen run-off can be a major pollutant in waterways. It can either be over-fertilization, or cow dung and urine. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6024564/ https://www.epa.gov/nutrientpollution/sources-and-solutions-... .
While nitrogen run-off is a large problem in many parts of the world, that's not what is being referred to here. This is about air pollution from their diesel farm equipment (and likely things like heating systems for greenhouses and animal barns etc.)