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Re: SpaceX alums are branching out and shaping the startup economy

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OpenAI is roughly 375 people, I don't know how big Anthropic is but I assume similar. I think the person you're replying to is wondering why the other 25 million of us aren't doing the same.

The money at FAANG is really hard to beat on a risk adjusted basis (though that risk factor is increasing with the layoff spree). From a financial perspective it is much more probable to become a millionaire through a FAANG than a startup right now.

Seems a bit tough with the hiring freeze

Re: SpaceX alums are branching out and shaping the startup economy

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Actually yes. SpaceX doesn’t pay a ton in salary, but their equity options have been incredibly valuable, so overall compensation has been good. If they’ve been around for a while and have had time for their shares to vest, they’re probably millionaires. SpaceX is worth a ton of money, and even tho SpaceX is private, they do regular private sales so employees can sell their shares. The early employees in particular h…

That sounds great indeed. Didn’t think of private sales that let you cash out your entire portfolio (or even a large fraction of it) were practiced. Anyone here have an idea of current spacex valuation?

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Re: SpaceX alums are branching out and shaping the startup economy

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I wish it was more like this at existing companies. Why everyone isn't leaving Adobe, Meta, and Google to found their own AI / generative media startups astounds me. If you work in our incredibly lucrative field, you may be able to afford a few quarters of leaning into risk. Startups are like a brush fire. Old incumbents have so much legacy code and cruft that nimble upstarts killing them is healthy . The "SpaceX dia…

Actually just quit my job at Meta to do just that. So you're not far off, I think you'll be surprised at how many ex-FAANG startups you'll see in the comings months. At least in our blind chat it seems there are several other like-minded people.

Did you have sales or a mvp before quitting

Re: SpaceX alums are branching out and shaping the startup economy

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Makes sense, not a lot of space companies to begin with, much less with people that have a startup mentality. Feel like the culture at Boeing or NASA is going to be very different from the one needed for a pioneering startup. And even then it's only a handful of investements, with how much liquidity is/was in the market not surprising that people got a few million for moonshots given how the potential for a whole new…

Pun intended I hope!

Re: SpaceX alums are branching out and shaping the startup economy

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Anecdotal, but: Startup I worked at hired a bunch of SpaceX and other musk company employees as middle management, during the hyper growth phase and every single one of them was simply awful.

Some were just abusive managers, many were just not that effective. The worst one was a manager that would swoop down with heroics, take credit for other people's work, not support reports on ideas you had, played the blame game, etc.

Re: SpaceX alums are branching out and shaping the startup economy

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I wish it was more like this at existing companies. Why everyone isn't leaving Adobe, Meta, and Google to found their own AI / generative media startups astounds me. If you work in our incredibly lucrative field, you may be able to afford a few quarters of leaning into risk. Startups are like a brush fire. Old incumbents have so much legacy code and cruft that nimble upstarts killing them is healthy . The "SpaceX dia…

WFH led to the greatest productivity increase in history - by leaps and bounds. Surely you’ve seen all the studies proving this? There must be 1000’s of WFH startups valued in the billions.

Re: SpaceX alums are branching out and shaping the startup economy

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Anecdotal, but: Startup I worked at hired a bunch of SpaceX and other musk company employees as middle management, during the hyper growth phase and every single one of them was simply awful. Some were just abusive managers, many were just not that effective. The worst one was a manager that would swoop down with heroics, take credit for other people's work, not support reports on ideas you had, played the blame game…

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Re: SpaceX alums are branching out and shaping the startup economy

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I wish it was more like this at existing companies. Why everyone isn't leaving Adobe, Meta, and Google to found their own AI / generative media startups astounds me. If you work in our incredibly lucrative field, you may be able to afford a few quarters of leaning into risk. Startups are like a brush fire. Old incumbents have so much legacy code and cruft that nimble upstarts killing them is healthy . The "SpaceX dia…

Incumbents like Adobe , Meta or Google were allowed to reach their size by letting them kill or buy the competition every time something else was rising. As long as regulators won't do anything about that, the next startup challenging an incumbent is just poised to be bought("congratulation on your exit!") and killed. Figma is the latest example of this.

The 7-to-10-digit exits by incumbents is what funds the entire[1] startup industry: compare number of startup acquisitions vs IPOs in the last 10 years.

If the FTC clamps down on acquisitions, there's going to be correction in valuations, and some statups will get killed by VCs who view modest successes as not worth their time.

1. Only being slightly hyperbolic

Re: SpaceX alums are branching out and shaping the startup economy

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Browsers like Firefox could hypothetically kill cookies in their browser tomorrow but doesn't. Or at least make a big stink about it. Do you think they should? Do you think we'd be better off as a society?

Yes we'd be better off if cookies were removed. But if it was only Firefox, people would simply add banners saying "Firefox is not supported." since it's only like 3% of marketshare these days.

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