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Can we update the title to be “East Palestine, Ohio”? Otherwise it reads like CDC is involved with chemical warfare allegations in Palestine.
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This study from the CDC website indicates masks have benefits, with increased benefits from certain types of masks - N95 masks seem to be the most effective. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm Yes, I know, the irony!
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Honestly, the way the public acted during COVID is half the reason I default to trusting the CDC. It's a far sight better than trusting the voices that tried to replace the CDC with their own "expertise."
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Most turns lead to falsehoods. Even if the mainstream story is wrong, deviating from it is likely to put one somewhere more, not less, wrong.
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IIRC, they advised against masks because (1) they didn’t know it was airborne and (2) there was a huge PPE shortage and discouraging a run on PPE would allow more to go to healthcare professionals. In the beginning there was a ton of investigation on how big of droplets the virus could subsist in (we were all wiping down packages) and it wasn’t clear how the virus was transmitted. As they got more actionable informat…
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If many people have similar incentives they can act similarly without explicit coordination.
> B) that all hospitals, doctors, nursing homes across the world ALL failed to stock vital supplies.
Not all, but many. This was obvious to anyone watching at the time. Remember the doctors wearing trash bags in the USA? Remember the patients in parking lots?
> The "more actionable information" you speak of, is btw, shoddy beyond belief. There are three major pieces to this:
I have no clue where you got this idea this is the evidence. The evidence for masks is physics: We know COVID is spread by aerosols, and we know masks filter aerosols. That's all you need.
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You do not. Even weeks after people were kicked out of the temporary accommodations and told to go back to their homes the smell of chlorine was omnipresent across the town. What congressman Johnson claimed at the townhall was that the levels were safe which appears to be based on acute rather than long-term exposure data.
If long-term exposure to chlorine smell was a problem, wouldn't every pool lifeguard have a lawsuit in their back pockets?
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I'm not renewiltord, who actually talked about public health officials not the CDC, unless he edited that part of his post. Hardly makes a difference though. CDC advice in March 2020 was that the vast majority don't need to wear one. Then suddenly everyone had to wear one, on pain of fines. Nothing about masks or the virus or "the science" changed. The reliability problem remains.
> Nothing about masks or the virus or "the science" changed. Are you sure? Because I'm pretty sure they refined the transmission model after understanding the virus better, looked at the cost / benefit ratios on mitigation options, and concluded that masks were better than nothing given that quarantining everyone wasn't an option. In that sense, "the science changed" in that we understood the situation better. There…
Reality is, respiratory viruses and masks have been around a long time. There was very little that was novel about SARS-CoV-2 despite attempts to claim otherwise, and prior understanding was correct: masks did nothing and that's clearly visible in the data. They were forced on everyone for political and ideological reasons, not scientific ones.
>> given that quarantining everyone wasn't an option.
It wasn't!? Because lockdowns sure seemed like quarantining everyone to the rest of us!
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> Nothing about masks or the virus or "the science" changed. Are you sure? Because I'm pretty sure they refined the transmission model after understanding the virus better, looked at the cost / benefit ratios on mitigation options, and concluded that masks were better than nothing given that quarantining everyone wasn't an option. In that sense, "the science changed" in that we understood the situation better. There…
Please show us the relevant paper and then show the link between that paper and changes in policy, because I've never heard of such a paper and nor has anyone else who investigated where this sudden change in mask policy came from. Reality is, respiratory viruses and masks have been around a long time. There was very little that was novel about SARS-CoV-2 despite attempts to claim otherwise, and prior understanding w…
"Because the investigators' symptoms improved soon after they left the area, the incident was not reported to the public" .... This is a rather Orwellian statement. Don't worry everyone, the CDC workers symptoms improved as soon as they got the hell out of East Palestine, therefore East Palestine must be completely healthy.
The CDC's handling of COVID was also just a complete and utter joke. Frankly, one big reason why COVID was so bad in the US was because of how terribly the CDC fucked up testing. They banned every test that wasn't their flawed one. NPR did a good article on how massive the fuck up was - https://www.npr.org/2020/11/06/929078678/cdc-report-official...
Can we update the title to be “East Palestine, Ohio”? Otherwise it reads like CDC is involved with chemical warfare allegations in Palestine.
East Palestine is not Palestine, like New York is not York. We'll get used to it. I hope East Palestine gets in the news for less tragical events in the future