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Re: Wine 8.5

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Post by mrpippy »

divan wrote: post #50
troad wrote: post #4

I'm constantly so astonished by how well Wine works these days. I remember the first time I heard about Wine, decades ago, and thinking "yeah, right!" But by God, they pulled it off. I would not have been able to move to Linux full-time without Wine. Thanks!

What would be the best way to give another try to Wine on MacOS to get this "works so well" experience?

CrossOver from CodeWeavers is the easiest way on macOS, you can try it free for 14 days.

(disclaimer: also a CodeWeavers employee)

Re: Wine 8.5

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Post by extrememacaroni »

minimaul wrote: post #25
troad wrote: post #4

I'm constantly so astonished by how well Wine works these days. I remember the first time I heard about Wine, decades ago, and thinking "yeah, right!" But by God, they pulled it off. I would not have been able to move to Linux full-time without Wine. Thanks!

Wine (and Proton by extension) is a marvel. Runs most of my windows software with little to no issue, and is more compatible with older games than Windows 10/11 itself!

Many people are still skeptical about wine and proton but in the future it will become the way to play Windows' existing game library. I always say that if you care about games preservation, you need to look at Linux & Proton. Even if a future version of wine/proton introduces some breaking changes, you can always use an older version for a particular game, much more comfortable than messing with Windows XP VMs and whatnot.

Wine and proton frontends are becoming so friendly too. Setting things up on e.g. steam deck is extremely easy, not just for wine but even for emulators (emudeck). Just click some buttons and you get everything set up for you and auto-updated.

Re: Wine 8.5

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Post by atahanacar »

davidgerard wrote: post #68
anthk wrote: post #16

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Use Guix, everything gets compiled fine, no matter what. If you need non-free because of $HARDWARE reasons, use nonguix, (or just a non-free kernel to avoid polluting the userland), but I won't help you on that. Altough you can install guix on any GNU/Linux distro, on top: https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/System-Installation... Then, run guix pull as a non root, and next, guix package -i lmms Don't forget to…

or I could keep doing the thing that has worked in a consistent manner for me for years rather than gratuitously do something different, of course.

I'm glad this is not the default way of thinking for everyone, because if it were, we'd never see any progress.

Re: Wine 8.5

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Post by szatkus »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #48
troad wrote: post #4

I'm constantly so astonished by how well Wine works these days. I remember the first time I heard about Wine, decades ago, and thinking "yeah, right!" But by God, they pulled it off. I would not have been able to move to Linux full-time without Wine. Thanks!

I gave up on Wine over a decade ago; I had no idea it has improved that much

When I used Wine around 20 years ago it was roullete if the application even starts. A few years ago I realized that it mostly works. Sure, some random little things could not work, some textures could be glitched, but I was confident that at least it will start. And it's constantly getting better (with some occasional regressions here and there, but it's bound to happen).

Re: Wine 8.5

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Post by Enginerrrd »

pabs3 wrote: post #9
troad wrote: post #4

I'm constantly so astonished by how well Wine works these days. I remember the first time I heard about Wine, decades ago, and thinking "yeah, right!" But by God, they pulled it off. I would not have been able to move to Linux full-time without Wine. Thanks!

What Windows software do you still need on Linux?

AutoCAD Civil 3D would be the big non-negotiable one for me. It's a shame since I love linux but I have to use windows for work.

Re: Wine 8.5

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Post by davidgerard »

atahanacar wrote: post #73
davidgerard wrote: post #68

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or I could keep doing the thing that has worked in a consistent manner for me for years rather than gratuitously do something different, of course.

I'm glad this is not the default way of thinking for everyone, because if it were, we'd never see any progress.

I'm glad I have the choice not to follow desktop "innovation", because I was here for the history of GNOME 3, and Xfce's lack of ambition keeps proving correct. CADT is not, in fact, a good idea.

Re: Wine 8.5

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Post by acapybara »

vetinari wrote: post #38
squarefoot wrote: post #24

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Last time I used it was to configure two dual band ceiling access points and their PoE switch, and everything worked flawlessly, both on Debian (desktop) and Manjaro (this laptop). Happened roughly 2 months ago.

It goes even further: 64-bit wine works with Rosetta. I'm running Winbox, via Wine, on M1 Mac.

vetinari, please do tell us how you did this

Re: Wine 8.5

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Post by minimaul »

extrememacaroni wrote: post #72
minimaul wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wine (and Proton by extension) is a marvel. Runs most of my windows software with little to no issue, and is more compatible with older games than Windows 10/11 itself!

Many people are still skeptical about wine and proton but in the future it will become the way to play Windows' existing game library. I always say that if you care about games preservation, you need to look at Linux & Proton. Even if a future version of wine/proton introduces some breaking changes, you can always use an older version for a particular game, much more comfortable than messing with Windows XP VMs and w…

I couldn't agree more, with the addition of dosbox and PCem/86box.

There's a ton of titles from the late 90s onwards to ~2010 that don't work correctly on modern Windows - either very unreliable, have something fundamental broken, or don't start at all.

This especially applies to games from the from the pre-Vista era - things like DirectSound & DirectDraw being rewritten in Vista broke a lot. In addition, newer GPUs & drivers have broken older games - even big names like The Sims 2 have graphical artifacting - unless you use DXVK! I understand that sometimes this is due to the game doing something incorrect that happened to work okay at the time, but that's still unhelpful if I want to get something to run.

Running games from my childhood requires a mix of dosbox (for most classic DOS titles), PCem/86box (for really weird old titles that don't run on anything that isn't win95/98, or DOS titles that relied on 3dfx hardware).

Get a bit newer and it's dgVoodoo2 (for games that use old DirectX or Glide), DXVK (even on windows!), or I just give up and run them on Linux with Wine - which usually just works. The odd title still needs some patching (like eg Max Payne, but that's because of a CPU incompatibility with AMD Zen CPUs) - but it's nearly always less hassle than trying to run older titles on Windows 10 or 11.

Re: Wine 8.5

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Post by tech234a »

OscarCunningham wrote: post #58
tannhaeuser wrote: post #22

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Anything 3D modeling related not covered by Blender, and software for 3D printing, just as an example. The word "still" in your post suggests you expect F/OSS software to eventually become available for all fields of application. But that's not what I see happening; instead, there's no new desktop (as opposed to cloud) software being released at all, much less on Linux. So Wine is here to stay with us to (increasingl…

So what we need is Wine in the browser.

A port exists, though it could use some more work on optimizing performance/browser integration: https://www.boxedwine.org/demo/

Re: Wine 8.5

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Post by divan »

mrpippy wrote: post #71
divan wrote: post #50

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What would be the best way to give another try to Wine on MacOS to get this "works so well" experience?

CrossOver from CodeWeavers is the easiest way on macOS, you can try it free for 14 days. (disclaimer: also a CodeWeavers employee)

Thank you!
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