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Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by sacnoradhq »

prenoob wrote: post #82

Writing from rome, italy. These bureaucrats only pretend to work. The number of privacy violations in italy is staggering, i have to take 10 calls a day from power companies because they have access to all the phone number of anybody who has a gas or energy contract. I had to change phone numbers. Meanwhile they are going against a service that as far as i know does not even require your name to serve you.

Modern Italy is, in many senses, a failed state. Frequent turnover in prime ministers and corruption are just 2 signals.

It might be worth getting a SIM and/or VOIP number from a different country and a different country code.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by Zurrrrr »

stametseater wrote: post #670
Zurrrrr wrote: post #538

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> Singaporean law forbids their citizens and residents from using drugs in other countries. The problem is with that law being applied to non-residents . If Singapore wants to police it's citizens lik that, it's fine. But to arrest a Canadian because they smoked weed a couple of days before arriving at Singpore customs, where it's legal in Montreal where they were? > With that I agree, but I think a better word to de…

Canada will ban Americans for life who've driven drunk in America but never drank a drop anywhere in Canada. If you try to sneak or lie your way in, they'll arrest you. Don't go to Singapore if you like drugs. How hard can that be? I've been not going to Singapore my entire life.

> Canada will ban Americans for life who've driven drunk in America but never drank a drop anywhere in Canada. If you try to sneak or lie your way in, they'll arrest you.

That's not a bad analogy, except many countries won't let you in if you have a felony on your record. That isn't that unusual.

Singapore is going to arrest people for breaking no rule in their home country, and not for breaking any rules within the country, but simply for showing up at the door because you smoked weed before the 21 hour flight?

I mean, you're right I won't go because I think it's a crappy country, but that doesn't mean I still can't disprove I want to work towards a world where no country has shitty laws like that..

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by thefz »

pb7 wrote: post #673
thefz wrote: post #629

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Not that the US has a positive record on immigration. There's no wall in Sicily, at least. Keep on gifting your data to the megacorps, I am sure they care about you.

>Not that the US has a positive record on immigration. There's no wall in Sicily, at least. You’re kidding, right? You have a massive sea acting as a wall against the undesirables. The US has more legal immigrants than any other country in the world. No one thinks megacorps care about them, it’s just a business transaction. If I didn’t find what I’m getting in return valuable, I wouldn’t participate. This is how it w…

Enjoy your state not protecting you,then. You don't even have the right to health,after all.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by pb7 »

thefz wrote: post #683
pb7 wrote: post #673

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>Not that the US has a positive record on immigration. There's no wall in Sicily, at least. You’re kidding, right? You have a massive sea acting as a wall against the undesirables. The US has more legal immigrants than any other country in the world. No one thinks megacorps care about them, it’s just a business transaction. If I didn’t find what I’m getting in return valuable, I wouldn’t participate. This is how it w…

Enjoy your state not protecting you,then. You don't even have the right to health,after all.

Same as you don’t have the right to food, right? You must all be dying in the streets from starvation.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by agildehaus »

neeleshs wrote: post #530
austinl wrote: post #427

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In the US, I used to receive multiple spam calls a day. A few years ago, I turned on the iOS setting that sends all phone numbers not in my contacts straight to voicemail and haven't looked back. It's occasionally inconvenient—maybe once or twice a year I deal with a company that needs to call me. But if it's a call from a real person, I can always listen to the voicemail and call them back. Most spam calls either do…

100%. I use this great strategy as well, but on Android. I just don't pick up any calls that's not in my contacts list. Works out great.

Google Assistant answers all my calls from unknown numbers and asks them to state what they're calling about. It transcribes the text in real time for me, and if I don't answer it saves that conversation for me to review later. Perfect.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by mk89 »

hankchinaski wrote: post #487

this alongside the ban on lab grown meat[0] and the recent proposed ban to use english words in government documents[1] is just proof on how antiquated and backward looking the government is. so glad i left almost 10 years ago. [EDIT] the privacy regulator is independent from the government but elected by the parliament every 7 years. nevertheless this is a testament on how in general, regardless of political party,…

I don't see the connection with the government on this one.

Garante della privacy is an independent office, and there were very simple motivators behind this choice: - illegal or improper use of personal data - nothing to protect children

That's it. Once they "fix it", there can't be so much that can be done on this.

After the TikTok case etc., I believe countries are getting a little bit ahead on such topics, before something small becomes the next Facebook and it's basically impossible to stop.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by mk89 »

hankchinaski wrote: post #489
seydor wrote: post #435

While this is obviously a dumb move, there are 2 upsides for Italy: - Italy, like the rest of south europe is hobbled by an army of bureaucrats doing busywork and their jobs are the first to be threatened by an AI speaking fluent Italian. So it helps them to keep unemployment from getting even higher - It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great…

>It's an opportunity for an Italian company to create a model and grow in this window of opportunity. Italy has great engineers nobody is going to invest a dime in a country where regulators and government are against anything that is "new". it's just not a place for new business or tech overall. it's a very hostile environment to be operating in

There is "new" and "new from another country, and we don't want that s*it here until we know what it is". This is not the reason why companies don't invest in Italy.

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Post by mk89 »

ransom1538 wrote: post #654
moffkalast wrote: post #553

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> Italy has great engineers Does it? Ferrari's become a real joke in recent years. I do fully buy the bureaucrats being threatened by automation theory though. > this is obviously a dumb move It's also a dumb move by OpenAI to pretend they can get away with not processing data in the EU like any other service has to. Just spin up a few instances, what's the big deal? It's just complete arrogance on their part. GDPR i…

"GDPR is not an optional suggestion." No it's some dumb fad. If you are not in Europe just disregard it. You don't have to respect Republic of Peru laws either.

Absolutely not. GDPR is applicable any time you process data from someone located in EU (it doesn't matter where the server is located).

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by rafark »

hankchinaski wrote: post #487

this alongside the ban on lab grown meat[0] and the recent proposed ban to use english words in government documents[1] is just proof on how antiquated and backward looking the government is. so glad i left almost 10 years ago. [EDIT] the privacy regulator is independent from the government but elected by the parliament every 7 years. nevertheless this is a testament on how in general, regardless of political party,…

I’m not Italian but if it’s a regulator that tells what you can or cannot do, then it’s government.
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