AI doomism is quickly becoming indistinguishable from an apocalyptic religion
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Re: AI doomism is quickly becoming indistinguishable from an apocalyptic religion
#2There are a lot of religious like beliefs about things as people have moved away from traditional religions. I wonder if it is in our nature to have something bigger than ourselves to believe in based on faith in the message
Re: AI doomism is quickly becoming indistinguishable from an apocalyptic religion
#3I mean, Yann is paid by Meta to propagate an "only positive vibes" stance. "AI doomism" itself is a ridiculous phrase meant to demonize anyone with legit concerns, of which there are many. I say this as someone who is very excited about recent developments and sees the potential upside as well as anyone, I think.
Re: AI doomism is quickly becoming indistinguishable from an apocalyptic religion
#4Am I an apostate if my concern about AI doom now outweighs my concern about climate change?
Re: AI doomism is quickly becoming indistinguishable from an apocalyptic religion
#5I'm happy to see there's still an adult in the room. Andrew Ng has also been very reasonable about the current pop culture hype bubble, while many others have decided to try and use it for attention. As I've said before, there's a clear divide between the actual practitioners, and the "futurists" (Musk etc) on this topic.
Re: AI doomism is quickly becoming indistinguishable from an apocalyptic religion
#6There is "A.I. doomism" in general and there is also a specific cult-like group at the lesswrong website that really is an apocalyptic religion. It is astonishing how anything that deviates from its dogma in any way has to have "trigger warnings" and the senseless comments that users write on anything that suggests there could be intrinsic limits on intelligence.
There ideology is such that a higher intelligence is going to take our problems away either by taking over, ending us (no people, no problems) or possibly the followers moving on to the "next level" like the followers of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_(religious_gro...
Re: AI doomism is quickly becoming indistinguishable from an apocalyptic religion
#7A religion is arguably when you refuse to engage with other people's arguments
Lecun has refused to engage with anyone's arguments, so why are the people worried about AI ex-risk the religion?
Re: AI doomism is quickly becoming indistinguishable from an apocalyptic religion
#8AI optimism is often indistinguishable from "technological manifest destiny"
Re: AI doomism is quickly becoming indistinguishable from an apocalyptic religion
#9There are a lot of religious like beliefs about things as people have moved away from traditional religions. I wonder if it is in our nature to have something bigger than ourselves to believe in based on faith in the message
I'm convinced religious beliefs/feelings are an unavoidable emergent property of human minds.
Re: AI doomism is quickly becoming indistinguishable from an apocalyptic religion
#10I'm happy to see there's still an adult in the room. Andrew Ng has also been very reasonable about the current pop culture hype bubble, while many others have decided to try and use it for attention. As I've said before, there's a clear divide between the actual practitioners, and the "futurists" (Musk etc) on this topic.
Hinton is not an adult? https://twitter.com/JMannhart/status/1641764742137016320?t=I...