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Moving from Rust to C++

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Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by bonzini »

raphlinus wrote: post #47
pornel wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Face it, your work will never be as immortal as autotools. You also bet on wrong languages. M4 is battle-tested, stood the test of time, and is much more stable.

You are right, and that is an excellent way to state my goals: I hope to create systems that have as much lasting impact as autotools.

That said, for those of us that don't have the luxury of working only in Rust, the cargo monoculture is a problem.

Or more precisely, as a result of that monoculture there is a single implementation of build.rs and it cannot interoperate with anything else. If cargo could optionally generate a build.ninja file or some JSON with the command it runs, it would be so much easier.

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by skrebbel »

gpm wrote: post #21
bot347851834 wrote: post #5

I wonder what's the consensus on HN about April Fools blog posts like this one. It's probably a cultural thing but I really feel like it's a waste of time, both for the readers and the writer. I don't want to be overly negative because of course they can be a way of publicizing cool things (in this case an open source library). It's just that every April 1st I open a lot of links only to be disappointed that their co…

I don't feel like this content is "just" a joke. It is a joke, it's also a discussion of what the author views as c++'s shortcomings. It's valuable to have things like that written down every now and then, to give people context about why other people have made the choices they have.

Yeah but, is there any argument that’s more tiresome than Rust people pointing and laughing at C++?

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by oconnor663 »

camdenlock wrote: post #49
raphlinus wrote: post #36

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I think you nailed it. I wake up each morning consumed with anxiety, thinking to myself, "how do I become relevant?" Clearly, having shipped advanced multilingual typesetting capabilities to billions of users didn't do it, nor developing high performance GPU rendering algorithms, nor having made a popular programming font. But posting a language comparison to Hacker News, that should put me on the map.

Holy crap, imagine being this insecure.

One time someone left a comment on one of my videos that was like "I don't like the sound you make when you drink water." And now whenever I look back at that video, I remember that comment, every time. It's wild how the mind works.

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by laund »

raphlinus wrote: post #19
2h wrote: post #11

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as you said, its annoying and a complete waste of time. Its essentially someone lying to their audience. As someone trying to build a reputation or a following, how do you do that?

I think the tradition of April Fools (and related, Onion-like satire) serves an important epistemological function, even more relevant and important in today's information environment. You cannot rely on tone and confident expression, but rather read critically. In this particular case, what's being satirized are a fairly complex mix of perceptions about community and what actually builds a programming language ecosy…

i only really learnt Rust 1 year ago. Combined with a awful memory for names, i had no clue who wrote the article.

Now, the thing is, it's entirely believable to me. Having witnessed the Stroustrup paper which honestly had some way less believeable yet honest reactions, i didn't even blink an eye.

I would have gone in with my day believing "well that's just dumb" had something not compelled me to click this post linked in the same mastodon post.

i wonder if the target audience might just be way too small for a post like this.

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by wdpk »

raphlinus wrote: post #36
wdpk wrote: post #9

sounds like desperation to become relevant

I think you nailed it. I wake up each morning consumed with anxiety, thinking to myself, "how do I become relevant?" Clearly, having shipped advanced multilingual typesetting capabilities to billions of users didn't do it, nor developing high performance GPU rendering algorithms, nor having made a popular programming font. But posting a language comparison to Hacker News, that should put me on the map.

I thought a sense of humor and maybe a little bit of a thick skin would be required if you want to partake into April fools bashing. Who's taking oneself seriously now...

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by camdenreslink »

bot347851834 wrote: post #5

I wonder what's the consensus on HN about April Fools blog posts like this one. It's probably a cultural thing but I really feel like it's a waste of time, both for the readers and the writer. I don't want to be overly negative because of course they can be a way of publicizing cool things (in this case an open source library). It's just that every April 1st I open a lot of links only to be disappointed that their co…

I like internet April Fools jokes if they are really funny and obviously a joke. It takes a lot of skill to make a really funny joke though.
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