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Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by gpm »

bot347851834 wrote: post #5

I wonder what's the consensus on HN about April Fools blog posts like this one. It's probably a cultural thing but I really feel like it's a waste of time, both for the readers and the writer. I don't want to be overly negative because of course they can be a way of publicizing cool things (in this case an open source library). It's just that every April 1st I open a lot of links only to be disappointed that their co…

I don't feel like this content is "just" a joke. It is a joke, it's also a discussion of what the author views as c++'s shortcomings.

It's valuable to have things like that written down every now and then, to give people context about why other people have made the choices they have.

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by Capricorn2481 »

2h wrote: post #11
bot347851834 wrote: post #5

I wonder what's the consensus on HN about April Fools blog posts like this one. It's probably a cultural thing but I really feel like it's a waste of time, both for the readers and the writer. I don't want to be overly negative because of course they can be a way of publicizing cool things (in this case an open source library). It's just that every April 1st I open a lot of links only to be disappointed that their co…

as you said, its annoying and a complete waste of time. Its essentially someone lying to their audience. As someone trying to build a reputation or a following, how do you do that?

This is truly an impressive thread. HN will really complain about anything. It doesn't matter how innocuous the article. Some might say everyone on here is chronically online, but I don't think that's true. It's really just part of the culture that every post on here is treated as an invitation to read into the author's intentions and assume the worst of their character. Doesn't matter what the article is actually about, there will always be someone coming in with their "hot take."

I find this attitude way more exhausting and unoriginal.

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by peterfirefly »

influx wrote: post #4

Given I have never heard of this person, the joke isn’t very funny. These internet April fools jokes are so tiring.

If you haven't heard of him, the joke's on you. Maybe. In any case, his work is worth looking into.

He has done interesting work in font creation, font building primitives, rasterization, 2D drawing, and resistant social network graphs (which turns out to be more or less equivalent to the Old Sk00l Google Juice system).

He was recently instrumental in performing a wonderful experiment in editor building -- wonderful because of the way it failed. It was something that one would think would work, but somehow it didn't. It's always interesting when intelligent and well-informed people are wrong about something. Perhaps there was too much Design and too little boring boiler plate.

https://levien.com/

https://levien.com/type/myfonts/inconsolata.html

https://levien.com/phd/phd.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodipodi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advogato

https://raphlinus.github.io/xi/2020/06/27/xi-retrospective.h...

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by raphlinus »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #7
influx wrote: post #4

Given I have never heard of this person, the joke isn’t very funny. These internet April fools jokes are so tiring.

One of the most important people in the later development of X Window, also worked on other 2D drawing APIs. [ EDIT: I was wrong about X Window. Take back all the karma! ]

I was only tangentially involved in X, but was active in a lot of related projects (some Gtk infrastructure, Ghostscript, the seeds of what became Inkscape), and now work on GPU-accelerated font rendering. I also played a central role in getting Rust adopted at Google, and now one of my passions is advancing the Rust GUI space, as I feel like that has enormous potential.

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by jchw »

> Here, it is clear that Rust is held back by its commitment to not break existing code (enacted by the edition mechanism), while C++ is free to implement backwards compatibility breaking changes in each new version.

This is well done.

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by secondcoming »

masklinn wrote: post #14
bot347851834 wrote: post #5

I wonder what's the consensus on HN about April Fools blog posts like this one. It's probably a cultural thing but I really feel like it's a waste of time, both for the readers and the writer. I don't want to be overly negative because of course they can be a way of publicizing cool things (in this case an open source library). It's just that every April 1st I open a lot of links only to be disappointed that their co…

For the last 5-10 years I've though of April 1st as a hell-day. Most years, this sentiment (and warning) is what I post in a private group. At least this year it's on a saturday not a weekday, so most of the cringiest corporate april's fools are not happening. The web just goes to shit with jokes which sometimes visibly take a lot of effort (e.g. unless this post was AI-generated and while it's much shorter than the…

That's the whole point of it!

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by vitehozonage »

bot347851834 wrote: post #5

I wonder what's the consensus on HN about April Fools blog posts like this one. It's probably a cultural thing but I really feel like it's a waste of time, both for the readers and the writer. I don't want to be overly negative because of course they can be a way of publicizing cool things (in this case an open source library). It's just that every April 1st I open a lot of links only to be disappointed that their co…

I read the whole post and didnt realise it was a joke until I saw your comment. Very irritating waste of time.

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by elteto »

bot347851834 wrote: post #5

I wonder what's the consensus on HN about April Fools blog posts like this one. It's probably a cultural thing but I really feel like it's a waste of time, both for the readers and the writer. I don't want to be overly negative because of course they can be a way of publicizing cool things (in this case an open source library). It's just that every April 1st I open a lot of links only to be disappointed that their co…

This is actually the last Aprils 1st when that will be allowed. Humor will be banned starting tomorrow April 2nd.

Re: Moving from Rust to C++

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Post by tialaramex »

bot347851834 wrote: post #5

I wonder what's the consensus on HN about April Fools blog posts like this one. It's probably a cultural thing but I really feel like it's a waste of time, both for the readers and the writer. I don't want to be overly negative because of course they can be a way of publicizing cool things (in this case an open source library). It's just that every April 1st I open a lot of links only to be disappointed that their co…

The best April Fools are real but funny, like when GitHub announced SVN support. Ha ha, I don't need Subversion, oh it works... huh, well, I still don't need Subversion but thanks I guess.

April 1st would be a good time to do Winter's Day if we could pull that off (Winter's Day is a holiday from the Miracleman comics - to celebrate Winter Moran, Miracleman's daughter, by allowing children to run the world for one day per year. In the comic book Miraculous things are possible, so allowing young children to drive fire trucks and so on seems fine...). Maybe in low risk industries we could indulge more of this, so no five year olds driving fire trucks, but there are a lot of jobs adults do that kids wouldn't mess up too badly in a single day if we planned carefully to allow for that.

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