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9-year-old girl wanted to save her goat from slaughter. Then came the warrant

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Re: 9-year-old girl wanted to save her goat from slaughter. Then came the warrant

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Website for the Shasta District Fair Junior Livestock Auction, for some context:

https://www.shastadistrictfairandeventcenter.com/junior-live...

It seems to be some kind of event for kids to learn about the practice of raising cattle, and the meat business.

So it is clear that the goat was never intended to become a pet. Still, I can't imagine this is the first time that there were upset kids at the fair. That place must be a tear factory.

Re: 9-year-old girl wanted to save her goat from slaughter. Then came the warrant

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post #11

Website for the Shasta District Fair Junior Livestock Auction, for some context: https://www.shastadistrictfairandeventcenter.com/junior-live... It seems to be some kind of event for kids to learn about the practice of raising cattle, and the meat business. So it is clear that the goat was never intended to become a pet. Still, I can't imagine this is the first time that there were upset kids at the fair. That place…

Sounds like a good way to raise vegans.

Re: 9-year-old girl wanted to save her goat from slaughter. Then came the warrant

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

She sold livestock at auction. After sale she offered to buy it back from the buyer, who agreed. The auction house decided that regardless of their amicable agreement the goat needed to be killed. The auction house then utilized their connections with the police, who used taxpayer money and resources to file criminal charges, get a warrant, took the goat, and returned it to the auction house, who then killed it and f…

Not objecting is not the same as agreeing to sell it back. If I email your office and ask if I can come take your car, and you don't respond, you didn't object, but you also didn't agree that I can come take your car.

From another article:

> In her June 27, 2022, letter to Silva, Long also pointed out that she had already been in contact with Dahle’s office about his bid, and that a representative told her the lawmaker was “okay with the alternative solution of the goat getting to be donated to a farm that does weed abatement.”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-30/goat-sla...

Now can we talk about the abuse of power and waste of resources to teach a nine year old a lesson?

Re: 9-year-old girl wanted to save her goat from slaughter. Then came the warrant

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not objecting is not the same as agreeing to sell it back. If I email your office and ask if I can come take your car, and you don't respond, you didn't object, but you also didn't agree that I can come take your car.

From another article: > In her June 27, 2022, letter to Silva, Long also pointed out that she had already been in contact with Dahle’s office about his bid, and that a representative told her the lawmaker was “okay with the alternative solution of the goat getting to be donated to a farm that does weed abatement.” https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-30/goat-sla... Now can we talk about the abuse of power…

If this were true, why did she steal the goat? Can’t the owner just drop the charges? These articles all seem to only tell her side of the story, and clearly she has integrity issues.

I grew up on a farm - with goats - and I can certainly understand why you would want the police involved if someone comes onto your property and takes your goats. They’re easy to steal, and hard to get back. The alternative is to round up a posse.

Also - that quote doesn't sound like he agreed to sell it back to her.

Re: 9-year-old girl wanted to save her goat from slaughter. Then came the warrant

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From another article: > In her June 27, 2022, letter to Silva, Long also pointed out that she had already been in contact with Dahle’s office about his bid, and that a representative told her the lawmaker was “okay with the alternative solution of the goat getting to be donated to a farm that does weed abatement.” https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-30/goat-sla... Now can we talk about the abuse of power…

If this were true, why did she steal the goat? Can’t the owner just drop the charges? These articles all seem to only tell her side of the story, and clearly she has integrity issues. I grew up on a farm - with goats - and I can certainly understand why you would want the police involved if someone comes onto your property and takes your goats. They’re easy to steal, and hard to get back. The alternative is to round…

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Re: 9-year-old girl wanted to save her goat from slaughter. Then came the warrant

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So, a parent not familiar with 4-H Club concept teaches her kid that it is okay to snatch things back after entering into a legal contract and giving it away.

Double so for the writer’s lack of understanding of rural law enforcement with regard to historical and longstanding laws on cattle rustling and posse.

I forget, this is was an ex-BuzzFeed reporter. He does do this kind of articles with glaring omissions of current law standings.

Perhaps it is because he has refined city culture and rural counties operate differently … for a good reason.

Re: 9-year-old girl wanted to save her goat from slaughter. Then came the warrant

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She sold livestock at auction, and then stole the livestock back. The police took the livestock back to the auction, and it got barbecued.

The buyer agreed to the reversed transaction, the middleman should just shut up.

Re: 9-year-old girl wanted to save her goat from slaughter. Then came the warrant

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Website for the Shasta District Fair Junior Livestock Auction, for some context: https://www.shastadistrictfairandeventcenter.com/junior-live... It seems to be some kind of event for kids to learn about the practice of raising cattle, and the meat business. So it is clear that the goat was never intended to become a pet. Still, I can't imagine this is the first time that there were upset kids at the fair. That place…

Sounds like a good way to raise vegans.

We raise our own chickens for meat, my young kids help. They eat meat.

I don’t understand why you think lovingly care and raising your own meat would make you a vegan? We use these moments to teach respect and gratefulness even for animals we are about to slaughter, but not in a pagan pantheistic way.

Kids get it pretty quickly frankly. They have much less “baggage” and No Agenda.

Re: 9-year-old girl wanted to save her goat from slaughter. Then came the warrant

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To me, this is the most important claim in the lawsuit:

> From there, the goat was delivered to unnamed individuals at the fair “for slaughter/destruction” even though the warrant required them to hold the goat for a court hearing to determine its lawful owner, the lawsuit says.

There was a property dispute, and the court issued a warrant to recover the property and hold it until a court hearing to decide ownership, but the holders disobeyed the warrant and hid or destroyed the property.

Re: 9-year-old girl wanted to save her goat from slaughter. Then came the warrant

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> Cedar had been purchased in April 2022 by Long for her 9-year-old daughter > “She loved him as a family pet,” the lawsuit says. > The family entered Cedar into the Shasta District Fair’s junior livestock auction on June 24, 2022,

> Long wrote that she had communicated with Dahle’s office, which did not object to the goat being saved from slaughter. > “I will pay you back for the goat and any other expenses I caused,” Long wrote. “I would like to ask for your support in finding a solution.” The buyer was fine with the withdrawal of the sale, however the middleman got angry: > “As a mother I am not unsympathetic regarding your daughter and her…

https://amp.sacbee.com/news/local/article273127820.html The fair should look terrible, along with the Sheriffs. The fair Director stated that she needed to be sure that this child learned an important life lesson. her parents also taught this child a lesson. The lesson is that you do not hide your ethics behind the law. The law is mutable, you need to have lines in the sand that are not. civil disobedience in the face of something in ethical happening is the right thing to do. Note- MLK- for starters. and saying ‘I was just following orders’- Is a poor excuse
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