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Re: Where have all the laid-off tech workers gone?

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Post by wonder_er »

dharmab wrote: post #319
wonder_er wrote: post #268

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How to make money: Offer this as a service to a business. The service (which I'm charging for, but don't yet have customers) is: 1. Paint some scooter parking lines in a reasonable spot, and add a signage explaining why the org wants to incentivize scooter usage. 2. The scooter parking would make use of existing nooks and crannys in the parking lot, so it wouldn't take away existing car parking. 3. Work with the staf…

I bet Revzilla's magazine would love to write about this if its successful.

Great idea. I've thought about 'content marketing', and only have planned on local podcasts, but RevZilla is a great idea.

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readonthegoapp wrote: post #361
dharmab wrote: post #319

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I bet Revzilla's magazine would love to write about this if its successful.

revzilla, like revzilla.com, the motorcycle store, or magazine, as you say? saw a dude yest cruising around on some type of etrike - i liked it, and i think the main reason was because it didn't seem as ugly and wide and low-quality as a typical non-e-trike. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ prob one of these types, i would guess: https://www.google.com/search?q=GRANDTAN+M-340+Etrike+2023&n... i could see etrikes becoming a thing for older…

I think scooters could be great for older folks, too. Help them retain balance and stuff. Scooters are way more stable than bicycles, but can go fast and can ride as fast as a car, if needed.

Totally agree with old white people representing political power, so whatever they want is what happens.

Re: Where have all the laid-off tech workers gone?

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Post by wonder_er »

DrOctagon wrote: post #363
wonder_er wrote: post #150

Laid-off tech worker here. (backend engineer, ruby/rails/javascript). 5 years of experience. I'm working on not ever going back into tech. I've changed careers a number of times in my 34 years of life, and am doing it again. I'm only a mediocre software developer, have always had strong people/business skills, informed by my pre-software experience of commercial construction, teaching/training at a climbing gym, cust…

We need a descriptor for the ideas people come home from Bali with :). I'm teasing, but in good spirit. All the best with your new path!!

Thanks! I didn't get the idea in Bali, but decided to start working on it while I was there.

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Post by wonder_er »

wyclif wrote: post #373
wonder_er wrote: post #276

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Tech workers in Bali? Yeah, no doubt. There's lots of tech people there, but I was kinda trying to avoid them/us.

I'm in the Philippines. Backend dev still working from home, but not making the kind of money I want to make and probably will not be able to make given the current state of tech. Maybe I need to think about a career change. Not getting any responses to applications at all.

I hear it's a hard world for engineering applications rn. That's part of why I didn't wanna go back into tech. We'll see. The world is in a strange way right now

Good luck!

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selimthegrim wrote: post #357
wonder_er wrote: post #354

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Huzzah! Another aficionado of land use issues! Alain Bertaud wrote a book called "order without design". He's an urban economist, and... his book is all a city planner needs to do their job correctly. Towards the end of the book he talks about the indonesian Kampung, briefly touched upon in this interview here: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-11/urban-pla... I had long wanted to visit this sort of pla…

Euclidean zoning is named after Euclid, Ohio, which is manifestly not in the South.

The zoning regime that was invented in the south went to the supreme Court as a result of it being implemented in the town of Euclid Ohio.

So you're right, Ohio isn't the south, but the regime that was approved by the supreme Court was invented by essentially the mayor of Atlanta.

It is just a re-implementation of Jim Crowe. The guy that invented it said:

> To maintain the harmonious relations between the races, care has been given to ensure adequate separation between them.

He was dscribing r1 verse r2 zoning. Pretty much every municipality in America still has r1, r2, r3 zoning on the books.

The guy that invented it said r1 zoning was for the white, r2 zoning was for the colored, r3 zoning was for the undecided.

When I bought a house in Golden, it was in an r2 neighborhood.

R1 is suburbia. It's genuinely horrifying that this travesty of a legal regime has not been ended yet, but most politically powerful white people can't be bothered to do a modicum of research, and they believe the propaganda they've been fed that says suburban neighborhoods, maintained by r1 zoning, are pleasant places to live.

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readonthegoapp wrote: post #368
wonder_er wrote: post #281

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'just' feels slightly de-dignifying, but overall this is not totally wrong. I'd say there's a lot more to do there than sleep around, but there seemed to be plenty of that. (I'm white-passing, have done the nomad thing in the past, didn't go to sleep around, don't consider myself to be a terrible romantic partner, but am recently divorced, so you shouldn't take only my word on that). I'm nearly autistic when it comes…

Indonesia? Smart land use? Hmmmm, call me skeptical, but i'll check it out. From what I know off the top of my head, ton of people, bunch of islands -> requires concentrated land use like manhattan or hk or singapore or sf or choose your concentrated land mass -- not sure any would qualify as good or smart or sustainable or 'some of the best' land use, but will def check it out.

It's not about concentrated versus not concentrated, it talks about the origin of the decisions that lead to how the built environment environment is shaped by the needs and preferences of the people who inhabit it

The book is definitely worth reading. It gets a smidge academic at times, but a moderately interested high schooler could easily parse the entire thing, and it'll forever transform how you view land use issues throughout the world.

I know what you mean as far as skepticism. The modern /western world kind of resists at a philosophical level adopting norms coming from countries that it deems as second class.

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barry-cotter wrote: post #321
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Seriously, why don't more people work so the investors can get a chunk of their value for doing nothing? How dare they do something so utterly anti-social as spend more time doing things with people that aren't making investors money? Why must the rich investor class make-do with their own money pile when a chunk of your effort could make their pile bigger?

$20,000 a year income puts one in the top decile of income worldwide. At $50,000 you are richer than 98.5% of the global population. That’s less than the median American worker ($54K) or the mean ($74K). A lit more than any investor class are rich by any historical or global standard.

So, if someone has made enough to retire early, they shouldn't. Instead the should grow thier pile even bigger, because that wouldn't be selfish on account of all the other people in the world not being able to grow thier piles bigger?

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Post by granshaw »

inconceivable wrote: post #203
jghn wrote: post #103

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> FANG like companies also do a lot of things different then most other, As a hiring manager, this is a factor that weighs heavily in my mental math. My experience with ex-BigTech engineers has been that they tend towards wanting to make everything to match their BigTech experience. But they often don't have the pragmatism to understand that X is a good pattern at BigTech because *of the size of BigTech*. Have had wa…

i got into an argument with a bigtech employee (outside of work, in a social setting) that senior engineers should spend 25% of their time mentoring junior hires. he literally could not understand that a small company can't afford to do this. not only that, he also could not understand that small companies doesn't even make junior hires. there's nobody to mentor! and i would guess this guy has like a top 1% iq, whate…

High IQ, low EQ

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Post by granshaw »

TheHappyOddish wrote: post #320
Beaver117 wrote: post #99

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It's funny because for 10 years people were saying "get this big company on your resume and you can just walk into any job!" Clearly not the case anymore

You can, just not jobs at the price level you're expecting. I'm sure there are plenty of jobs in your field you can get with your resume, assuming you're willing to face reality.

Not true if you’re reading many of these comments - managers view these hires as risky even if they agree to the lower salaries

Re: Where have all the laid-off tech workers gone?

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Post by lazyasciiart »

than3 wrote: post #352
moonchrome wrote: post #279

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We are talking about people making above >150k/year here right ? At no point does 10-20% inflation mean they are better off growing their own food or some shit like that. Your point is probably applicable in less developed economies/low paid positions. For highly specialized well paid positions if this was the case you'd probably have a societal collapse.

Lets do some basic math, and then afterwards I think it will be clear how it might be better to grow your own food. Also, not everyone makes that much, and you seem to think that's a lot but its really not, especially if inflation is eating away at your stores regularly (over a greater time period than a year). So, here comes the basic math available from looking up some publicly available figures. I only say this be…

That's not a very relevant response to a comment that began by saying

> We are talking about people making above >150k/year

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