Wow, why do bad things happen to all the investigators sent to look into mishaps in Ohio? https://katv.com/news/local/authorities-responding-to-plane-...
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#52Probably just a coincidence
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> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cohencidence: A play on 'coincidence' and the common Ashkenazi Jewish surname Cohen. Used to imply that Jews are behind certain events or movements that are purported to be random or organic. Similar to ((())).
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#53Wow, why do bad things happen to all the investigators sent to look into mishaps in Ohio? https://katv.com/news/local/authorities-responding-to-plane-...
> A Little Rock-based environmental consulting firm confirmed that all five people onboard the plane, including the pilot, were members of their company.
Not "investigators"...
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#54EPA officials also recently admitted that the scanners they are using for some tests aren't sensitive enough to detect dangerous levels of some chemicals they are testing for https://statuscoup.substack.com/p/east-palestine-bombshell-e...
3.6 roentgen? Not great, not terrible.
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> At least GWB, though a contemptible fellow otherwise, took his frat attitude up in a chopper to survey Katrina. What? Bush’s handling of Katrina was so bad “this is so-and-so’s Katrina” entered the political lexicon as a term for mishandling disasters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_government_re...
The point is the double standard, Bush was there for a flyover on day 3, and on the ground day 5, and it was the worst response ever. So what is the East Palestine response in comparison?
After Katrina, almost 1400 people died, and 80% of the city of New Orleans (population ~400,000) was flooded for weeks. No one died in the East Palestine incident. Hard to see the equivalence.
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President Carter visited Three Mile Island.
After his experience with Chalk River, Three Mile Island was like a trip to Disney World.
I now kind of want to see an HBO series like Chernobyl about this.
"Carter was ordered to Chalk River to lead a U.S. maintenance crew that joined other American and Canadian service personnel to assist in the shutdown of the reactor.[30] The painstaking process required each team member to don protective gear and be lowered individually into the reactor for 90 seconds at a time, limiting their exposure to radioactivity while they disassembled the crippled reactor. When Carter was lowered in, his job was simply to turn a single screw.[31] During and after his presidency, Carter said that his experience at Chalk River had shaped his views on atomic energy and led him to cease development of a neutron bomb.[32]"
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How was Katrina not an environmental catastrophe -- the casual definition that I find repeatedly is "An environmental disaster or ecological disaster is defined as a catastrophic event regarding the natural environment that is due to human activity." Given that criteria, Katrina was most definitely an environmental catastrophe. Now, if you mean "When was the last time a president visited a catastrophe that involved c…
President Carter visited Three Mile Island.
Incidentally, President Carter was uniquely qualified to go there.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2023/02/20/jimmy-cart...
https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/national-veri...
https://www.jimmycarterlibrary.gov/about_us/naval_service
> 16 OCT 1952 - 08 OCT 1953—Duty with US Atomic Energy Commission (Division of Reactor Development, Schenectady Operations Office) From 3 NOV 1952 to 1 MAR 1953 he served on temporary duty with Naval Reactors Branch, US Atomic Energy Commission, Washington, D.C. “assisting in the design and development of nuclear propulsion plants for naval vessels.” From 1 MAR 1953 to 8 OCT 1953 he was under instruction to become an engineering officer for a nuclear power plant. He also assisted in setting up on-the-job training for the enlisted men being instructed in nuclear propulsion for the USS Seawolf (SSN575).
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#59EPA officials also recently admitted that the scanners they are using for some tests aren't sensitive enough to detect dangerous levels of some chemicals they are testing for https://statuscoup.substack.com/p/east-palestine-bombshell-e...
3.6 roentgen? Not great, not terrible.
Yes, but it's not exactly the same situation. "The EPA’s equipment isn’t able to detect lower levels of Butyl Acrylate that can still pose a threat to human health." In Chernobyl, the Soviets had the opposite problem: the maximum concentration their standard equipment could read was far below the real level.
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I think it's honestly quite fair. He was a presidential candidate and looks likely to run again in the next election - as a consolation prize he was appointed to the department that handles these things and absolutely failed to step up when a disaster directly in his domain happened. I think it's fair that he's held to a higher standard than Ellen Chao who was pretty much just a nepotism appointment and, as far as I'…
Lol. So we’re supposed to show deference to an appointee whose a member of a family controlling a Chinese maritime shipping company who happens to be the wife of the Senate Majority leader, because she’s just a patronage appointee? So many regulatory changes were made during the Trump administration that directly benefited shipping interests. Chao isn’t some Washington DC housewife!
I don't think I ever said anything about deference? Chao was a complete BS appointment who was clearly just there to hand off contracts to family friends... Buttigieg was someone who wanted to be endowed as the chief executive and instead got a cabinet appointment - they came from being a mayor to having a role on the national stage and I honestly don't think they've really accomplished anything of note that would give them a boost in an upcoming election - this collision was not their fault personally but they responded to it poorly and hasn't been doing much else. I'm pretty sure Katie Porter has had a much larger impact on most people's lives than Buttigieg.
To clarify - when I said I hold them to a higher standard than Chao it's because my expectations were for Chao to wave in a series of corrupt defunding decisions and they ended up only being relatively corrupt - they cleared the extremely low bar I had for them. I had expectations about Buttigieg and they have not lived up to them.