There is no ownership when the repercussions are soft and deferred.
CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
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Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey, I'm sure the majority of those are trains popping off the track at low speeds.
And? The system shouldn't be in a steady state of expected failures. These are enormous machines that sometimes carry hazardous materials. Failure cannot be tolerated. It's indicative of a rotten culture of safety and mismanagement that ignores the problems.
Uh, that’s completely unrealistic. No large scale system (or any system for very long) has zero downtime.
What is the overall percentage any train spends derailed?
Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
#43That whole disaster was terribly handled. From The sec of transportation dragging his feel by weeks, to the president being dismissive and the train company saying no big deal... go back home, it's safe! I hope Erin can help to bring the attention and justice this disaster deserves. At least GWB, though a contemptible fellow otherwise, took his frat attitude up in a chopper to survey Katrina.
> At least GWB, though a contemptible fellow otherwise, took his frat attitude up in a chopper to survey Katrina.
What? Bush’s handling of Katrina was so bad “this is so-and-so’s Katrina” entered the political lexicon as a term for mishandling disasters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_government_re...
Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
#44Probably just a coincidence
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Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
And? The system shouldn't be in a steady state of expected failures. These are enormous machines that sometimes carry hazardous materials. Failure cannot be tolerated. It's indicative of a rotten culture of safety and mismanagement that ignores the problems.
Uh, that’s completely unrealistic. No large scale system (or any system for very long) has zero downtime. What is the overall percentage any train spends derailed?
Not when the consequence of failure for spilling hazardous material is so great! What are you going to agree to next, that nuke plants are allowed a few minutes of core meltdown a year? Get real.
Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
#46That whole disaster was terribly handled. From The sec of transportation dragging his feel by weeks, to the president being dismissive and the train company saying no big deal... go back home, it's safe! I hope Erin can help to bring the attention and justice this disaster deserves. At least GWB, though a contemptible fellow otherwise, took his frat attitude up in a chopper to survey Katrina.
Also transportation sec Buttigieg just casually saying not to worry we have over 1,000 train derailments a year: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11760173/There-roug... Over 1,000 derailments! Maybe we should work on getting those down before patting ourselves on the back for job well done.
> Also transportation sec Buttigieg just casually saying not to worry we have over 1,000 train derailments a year
That this is what people care about is why nothing gets done. A politician can't even say a fact without the news media or another opportunistic politician spinning it in the worst way possible. Imagine if this was how your company handled postmortems. Given that half the time politicians majority of time politicians spend is on optimizing their sound bites, it should be no surprise that they outsource the actual policy making part to the lobbyists.
Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uh, that’s completely unrealistic. No large scale system (or any system for very long) has zero downtime. What is the overall percentage any train spends derailed?
Not when the consequence of failure for spilling hazardous material is so great! What are you going to agree to next, that nuke plants are allowed a few minutes of core meltdown a year? Get real.
Nuclear plants have safety incidents all the time. Someone drops a hammer on their toe. That's what most of the 1,000 derailments are; things like this: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Minor_Derailment_in_... or https://tdn.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/amtrak-train-suf...
The big problems, for both trains and nuclear plants, are rare.
Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
#48EPA officials also recently admitted that the scanners they are using for some tests aren't sensitive enough to detect dangerous levels of some chemicals they are testing for
https://statuscoup.substack.com/p/east-palestine-bombshell-e...
Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
#49That whole disaster was terribly handled. From The sec of transportation dragging his feel by weeks, to the president being dismissive and the train company saying no big deal... go back home, it's safe! I hope Erin can help to bring the attention and justice this disaster deserves. At least GWB, though a contemptible fellow otherwise, took his frat attitude up in a chopper to survey Katrina.
Also transportation sec Buttigieg just casually saying not to worry we have over 1,000 train derailments a year: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11760173/There-roug... Over 1,000 derailments! Maybe we should work on getting those down before patting ourselves on the back for job well done.
Come on. He wasn’t “casually saying not to worry”. He literally called it a horrible situation. His point was to suggest that this particular incident was being turned into a a political football. That being said, I think his complaint is, at best, trivial considering the incident has deserved all the attention is has gotten.
Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
#50That whole disaster was terribly handled. From The sec of transportation dragging his feel by weeks, to the president being dismissive and the train company saying no big deal... go back home, it's safe! I hope Erin can help to bring the attention and justice this disaster deserves. At least GWB, though a contemptible fellow otherwise, took his frat attitude up in a chopper to survey Katrina.
> At least GWB, though a contemptible fellow otherwise, took his frat attitude up in a chopper to survey Katrina. What? Bush’s handling of Katrina was so bad “this is so-and-so’s Katrina” entered the political lexicon as a term for mishandling disasters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_government_re...
The point is the double standard, Bush was there for a flyover on day 3, and on the ground day 5, and it was the worst response ever. So what is the East Palestine response in comparison?