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Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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not just that: another, for example, will be to give the ability for any user to remove his/her data (and also to be able to download). Then some more: I don't think OpenAI will have problems implement it, they are probably just late. But the big issue may be another one (I hope to be wrong): if I train my model with the contributions of many users, then some users ask me to remove their 'contribution', am I able to…

Yes: just remove that user's data from the training set, throw out the existing model and train from scratch on the modified training set. As for the more interesting question if you can modify an existing model in a simple way: probably not. But you might get away with just dropping any response containing snippets of the contribution to be expunged, and that is hopefully good enough for the regulator.

geez training from scratch costs a lot of money! Let alone being able to contact all the authors of the content the model was trained on, infeasible for me

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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The training data is a serious problem. So far Adobe is the only company I've heard of to publicly state they had the right to use the data for training.

Adobe trains LLMs?

It's an image generation model behind a service called Firefly.

https://www.adobe.com/sensei/generative-ai/firefly.html

https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2023/03/21/responsible-inn...

The creator compensation thing is probably speculative although they do have business reasons to follow through, like not alienating their entire customer base.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #109

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I am also writing from Italy. In the last few months I have received so many spam calls from UK numbers that I have been forced to ban the whole of Britain from my phone. Good job Data Protection authority.

In the US, I used to receive multiple spam calls a day. A few years ago, I turned on the iOS setting that sends all phone numbers not in my contacts straight to voicemail and haven't looked back. It's occasionally inconvenient—maybe once or twice a year I deal with a company that needs to call me. But if it's a call from a real person, I can always listen to the voicemail and call them back. Most spam calls either do…

Imagine my shock when I found out that in the year 2023 there's still only so much room in my voicemail box and I wasn't receiving new voicemails because I never deleted any...

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #202

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I'm an American that have been living in Europe for 15 months. My perspective is that Europe is ruled by old aristocracy that is happy with the way the life is. They're very afraid of any change, especially of giving people something constructive to do on a large scale. Another reason might be that Europe went through the two World wars, and therefore they're generally scared of any change.

Yeah everything is geared towards the aristocracy - like VAT and Income Tax are insanely high meanwhile there is often no land value tax, property tax, inheritance tax, wealth tax or gift tax at all. And even capital gains are taxed far less than income. I think it's more that the US was made up of immigrants so it got to start anew without a massive established aristocracy and monarchies.

Although the UK, despite having a literal aristocracy and monarchy, has a near-identical percentage of self-made millionaires, markedly more than the Continental social democracies, where far more wealth is inherited.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Writing from rome, italy. These bureaucrats only pretend to work. The number of privacy violations in italy is staggering, i have to take 10 calls a day from power companies because they have access to all the phone number of anybody who has a gas or energy contract. I had to change phone numbers. Meanwhile they are going against a service that as far as i know does not even require your name to serve you.

It makes sense that they look @ this re: GDPR, if you've ever had to do training on GDPR you'd see it.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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This does not surprise me at all. I worked in Italy for 2 years and in Germany for 4 years. A sense of `US/CIA/NSA-phobia` is strong among many companies and is often used to justify not using US datacenters, cloud-services and SaaS tools. I have to admit I do not fully understand it, but I am inclined to think it is mostly a bias and not driven by actual risk assessments. Having conducted risk assessments and threat…

We just don't want to freely give our data to US competitors companies. Is that hard to understand ? Do you think US company would reveal their blueprints and source code to the rest of the world ?

A phobia is an irrational fear, this is a rational fear.

About how EU treat engineers, this is a separate issue, in France at least, there is the belief that advancing in your career (=get paid more) means becoming manager.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #413

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The UK has left the EU. They appear to not be abiding by EU privacy laws as a result.

Italian phone number had to get there somehow, probably sold by X, an Italian company?

The fact that the call shows an origin number from UK does not mean that it actually comes from UK; source numbers can be spoofed in various ways, especially if it's not spam calls from legitimate companies but actual scam calls.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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>Only about 10 years ago I used to be a convinced European from Germany. Hear, hear. How many "accept all cookies" button did you have to press today?

Please show me which part of GDPR mandates that banner. As additional homework, you can also lookup malicious compliance etc. Or even the sibling discussion on how Facebook wants you to apply for a permission to opt out of their tracking: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35383925

The banners proliferated after GDPR was instituted.

Privacy should have been promoted through technological means, e.g the EU could have funded development of fingerprintless browser technologies, zero-knowledge proof based identity verification, etc, instead of through bureaucratic regimentation of private interaction.

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