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Re: A new era of transparency for Twitter

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The organization is speaking, which is made up of many people. This is fine.

Fine maybe, just not very transparent.

I have lots to gripe about with Twitter these days, but I don’t see anything non-transparent about a corporate release not being signed by a specific person. It is most likely a product of a group, not a specific person. Attaching a name to it doesn’t make it any more transparent. It just puts that person in the crosshairs given the current environment.

Re: A new era of transparency for Twitter

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Nothing twitter can do to restore the lost trust. Twitter has to die evenutally. I believe in federated microblogging future.

Sorry but I have this strong feeling that the Fediverse/ActivityPub will be one of those ideas that will fail miserably or just become a niche for weirdos. My reasoning is: it's completely unnecessary. Just have different sites, like forums from the early 2000s. Much cleaner and simpler. I don't need a shared identity throughout these places. It's not what the web was meant to be, at all.

On the other hand, I have no reason to assume Twitter will die. What trust are we talking about here? I have no idea. People will just continue using it. In fact, I vastly prefer what's happening now than what the last management was doing.

Not trying to be confrontational here. I'm trusting my gut feeling more because I've seen through so many things that range from delusions to failed ideas in the last decade: Theranos, WeWork, Metaverse, Clubhouse, Crypto [other than Bitcoin], Social networks pretending to be the arbiters of truth, etc. I have a strong BS detector.

Re: A new era of transparency for Twitter

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Isn't it slightly ironic for a post on transparency to be signed "Twitter" as its author instead of some human? Who's speaking at this point? Of course in context of the rest of their missteps it's a tiny thing, but it stands out to me immediately when seeing the post at least.

It was Mary from marketing

Re: A new era of transparency for Twitter

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I think twitter can be replaced by another twitter. something that share some of the nice traits, but leaves out the others. Whatever it is it won't be federated though.. except maybe as a small side feature "normies" dont know about.

Launching a big brand Twitter alternative on top of the existing Fediverse feels to me like it could work incredibly well right now. The obsolute worst thing about the Fediverse (Mastodon et al) right now is the onboarding process. You have to "chose an instance" before you can even start understanding what that's about - and if you chose wrong you might find your instance gets switched off leaving you high and dry i…

> Or... if you're launching something new, why would you launch from a state of zero accounts when you could launch with Fediverse compatibility and have ~10m accounts that your first users can start following straight away?

I'd rather build something new and actually have a userbase than be something akin to a subreddit with fleeting users. It will be a lot more hard work, but it's worth it.

Also, Mastodon sucks. This whole "let's be free together" but also "don't step out of line" culture is disgusting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28495086.

> The obsolute worst thing about the Fediverse (Mastodon et al) right now is the onboarding process. You have to "chose an instance" before you can even start understanding what that's about - and if you chose wrong you might find your instance gets switched off leaving you high and dry in the future.

That's the problem. It's unnecessarily complex and other than a subniche, people in the real world are not interested in it. They just don't care about this at all.

Re: A new era of transparency for Twitter

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Nothing twitter can do to restore the lost trust. Twitter has to die evenutally. I believe in federated microblogging future.

I dont think the general public wants to do the work. centralized systems leverage that to win in the long run.

I dont think the general public wants to do the work. centralized systems leverage that to win in the long run.

Outside of hackernews, most people could care less. So many non-tech twitter users I have talked to, don't even know Musk bought it.

Why would they know/care to move, as you say.

Re: A new era of transparency for Twitter

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Reading this thread, I thought this press release was going to be interesting. Instead it seems totally anodyne and reasonable. Imagine being so angry that twitter is going to put its recommendation code on github.

Elon Musk clickbait broke the brain of half of HN readers. We need to consider permanently banning anything tangentially related to restore the quality here
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