Wow, why do bad things happen to all the investigators sent to look into mishaps in Ohio?
https://katv.com/news/local/authorities-responding-to-plane-...
CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also transportation sec Buttigieg just casually saying not to worry we have over 1,000 train derailments a year: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11760173/There-roug... Over 1,000 derailments! Maybe we should work on getting those down before patting ourselves on the back for job well done.
Hey, I'm sure the majority of those are trains popping off the track at low speeds.
Most of it is non-issues in rail yards. The definition of derailment, isn't a big crash, it's when a wheel doesn't touch the rail (or something simple but not indicative of serious problems).
Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
#24That whole disaster was terribly handled. From The sec of transportation dragging his feel by weeks, to the president being dismissive and the train company saying no big deal... go back home, it's safe! I hope Erin can help to bring the attention and justice this disaster deserves. At least GWB, though a contemptible fellow otherwise, took his frat attitude up in a chopper to survey Katrina.
What's the last solely environmental catastrophe a president has visited?
People died in Katrina. There were no immediate deaths from this environmental catastrophe.
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USDOT does have an important role to play. But the link (which I admittedly didn't follow) has a headline about the CDC. EPA is also an important agency, maybe the most important one for this clean-up. All that to say I'm somewhat skeptical when criticism focuses on Pete Buttigieg in particular...
I dunno, he's the face of the Feds. He sets the tone --this is his purview. He needed to go over there, check it out, figure out the magnitude on the ground and call in the cavalry (EPA, FEMA, etc.) as he saw necessary. But no, it took him two weeks to show his face.
I wish we, as people, would pay less attention to figureheads and more attention to what's happening behind the curtain. I also wish said figureheads, and the media that comment on them, would report more of what does, doesn't, and should go on behind the curtain.
Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also transportation sec Buttigieg just casually saying not to worry we have over 1,000 train derailments a year: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11760173/There-roug... Over 1,000 derailments! Maybe we should work on getting those down before patting ourselves on the back for job well done.
Hey, I'm sure the majority of those are trains popping off the track at low speeds.
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#27Hmm. How about that. Might be a bigger deal then originally thought.
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Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also transportation sec Buttigieg just casually saying not to worry we have over 1,000 train derailments a year: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11760173/There-roug... Over 1,000 derailments! Maybe we should work on getting those down before patting ourselves on the back for job well done.
Hey, I'm sure the majority of those are trains popping off the track at low speeds.
I expect in most of them there is no serious damage and most of the train is still on the rails.
That's how the derailment I was in worked. This was an Amtrak going from the Seattle area to Los Angeles. We pulled onto a siding to let a freight train by. When our train started again it went a few feet and then there was a thud and it abruptly stopped.
What happened was that the rails had separated a bit just ahead of where we had stopped on the siding, and so when the train resumed it fell off the rails.
Amtrak sent a couple engines to help. One went to the back or our train, and one went to the main track in front of where the siding started. The back one was connected to the back of our train, and the derailed engine was disconnected. The back engine then pulled the rest of our train backwards onto the main track. The other engine was coupled to the front of our train, the back engine decoupled, and we were back on our way.
It took around 6 hours or so from the engine derailing to the rest of the train resuming with the new engine. That was pretty annoying because we were without power most of that time, which apparently caused issues with food storage resulting in dinner being cancelled. Many of us who got on in the Seattle area had not had lunch either. The train was supposed to leave Seattle about an hour before lunch so we had planned on lunch on the train, but it actually got to Seattle after lunch.
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#29"Because the investigators' symptoms improved soon after they left the area, the incident was not reported to the public" .... This is a rather Orwellian statement. Don't worry everyone, the CDC workers symptoms improved as soon as they got the hell out of East Palestine, therefore East Palestine must be completely healthy.
People were evacuated for a reason?
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I dunno, he's the face of the Feds. He sets the tone --this is his purview. He needed to go over there, check it out, figure out the magnitude on the ground and call in the cavalry (EPA, FEMA, etc.) as he saw necessary. But no, it took him two weeks to show his face.
I wish we, as people, would pay less attention to figureheads and more attention to what's happening behind the curtain. I also wish said figureheads, and the media that comment on them, would report more of what does, doesn't, and should go on behind the curtain.
The media is the curtain.