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Yea agree so much with this. I just want a car with physical knobs and buttons bluetooth to connect to my phone's audio. Have to buy ~10 year old cars to get this.
My Subaru has physical knobs AND the benefits of CarPlay. This is not a mutually exclusive issue. And both work great together.
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I'm honestly surprised anybody is still buying GM cars/trucks. If you want a truck, get a Ford. They're hands-down the best in class. Or get a Toyota or Honda if you roll that way. If you want an SUV, well, everybody is making those and GM doesn't have any standout offerings. If you want a luxury car then there are much better options that are not only more luxurious, but more reliable, and oftentimes cheaper. If you…
The Bolt is the best EV in its price range (<30K)
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problem is (from GM's perspective), with CarPlay, Apple takes over the UX of the car...the Apple logo is the first and last thing people see when driving GM doesn't want Apple or Google taking over the UX of the car, because then GM is eventually just another FoxConn and sure, there's a money thing...they want revshare from Spotify and every other app they can position in the UI CarPlay and Android Auto will be gone…
In many vehicles, CarPlay and Android Auto appear within a panel on the overall interface, they don't have to take over the whole UI.
Apple announced the total UI takeover option (though I’m not sure if it works today) but no car maker supports it on a shipping vehicle.
Many have announced interest but at this point we don’t know if it will ever be available, even if only on some kind of ultra-luxury car.
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They are offering 8 years free data.
Source? Article doesn't mention that.
This sounds like GM is committing brand suicide by actively making itself unappealing to Gen Z. https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/01/06/gen-z-survey-says... I love Android, but I also know how to read.
I don’t think I would buy a car that didn’t have CarPlay. I’m an iPhone user and have no interest in changing my phone. People reject cars all the time for even more trivial things (oh — this one doesn’t have wireless charging? Next.), so I can’t imagine this being a smart idea for GM.
The reactions in this thread are interesting, because they seem to imply that this is the final straw that has convinced us to not buy Chevrolets and Buicks, as opposed to the last 30+ years of of their products being generally terrible.
I even use Android, and don't personally care that much about Apple support, and I'm still unhappy about this and it's making me less interested in Chevy for the next car.
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It's not just Gen Z, 79% of all US car buyers would only buy a car with CarPlay: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/22/apple-carplay-could-be-a-tro... GM will absolutely lose this battle. Idiotic move.
I'm glad to see that I'm not alone in that being an absolute requirement for a car purchase. I guess it's not surprising that GM is making another stupid move though.
My issue is that my #1 requirement (no functionality that requires a touchscreen to use) basically pre-empts me from having any other requirements.
This sounds like GM is committing brand suicide by actively making itself unappealing to Gen Z. https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/01/06/gen-z-survey-says... I love Android, but I also know how to read.
Never mind we can also enable the heated seats for you without your having to pay a subscription.
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On what grounds? Because people like it too much? Apple isn’t forcing anything. They don’t have exclusive contacts. Almost every car with CarPlay supports Android Auto. Customers are just demanding it.
Apple does restrict access to much of their platform for only Apple-based access. There's exactly one company stopping Google or anyone else from building a compatible car system that runs for both Android and ios, and that's Apple. The use of private APIs and preventing competitors from using them, to secure another market (car infotainment systems) certainly should run afoul of anticompetitive laws in spirit, even…
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yes it is, i am intimately aware of that project :) onstar is always connected to the car, you cannot disable it.
What happens if you disconnect the antenna? I recognize that they could be made integral to some other components, but at least in phones where I've removed radios and cameras, that has never been the case. Do the cars have some sort of spite-brick functionality built in if the cars can't phone home? This is purely curiosity; I doubt that I would ever buy a GM car.