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Jesus christ. What about a random person who doesn't have the tech know-how to do that? Should they just give up on privacy? Privacy is a human right, not a technologically-advanced-person right. And before anyone says "Well, sucks to not know basic tech stuff", consider the fact that in a world where no-one has privacy, the person using Facebook from a VM is eminently more trackable than in a world where privacy is…
I was talking to you specifically, not generally to random people. You're right; that would not be good advice to the average random person. But TARP probably wouldn't care. I hope you would and would have that ability. > Privacy is a human right, not a technologically-advanced-person right Yeah I suppose it is, but I'm starting to give up on the idea because all the people who whinge here on HN and elsewhere about p…
Similarly, governments can and have pushed for privacy regulations. Not all of it has been successful, but we’re at the first wave of these efforts.
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... and be punished with yet another 11.278 € fine, as if that would change anything.
“GDPR sets forth fines of up to 10 million euros, or, in the case of an undertaking, up to 2% of its entire global turnover of the preceding fiscal year, whichever is higher” Generally speaking, GDPR violations won’t be addressed with a slap on the wrist, apparently
"The less severe infringements could result in a fine of up to €10 million, or 2% of the firm’s worldwide annual revenue from the preceding financial year, whichever amount is higher."
"The more serious infringements go against the very principles of the right to privacy and the right to be forgotten that are at the heart of the GDPR. These types of infringements could result in a fine of up to €20 million, or 4% of the firm’s worldwide annual revenue from the preceding financial year, whichever amount is higher."
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I was talking to you specifically, not generally to random people. You're right; that would not be good advice to the average random person. But TARP probably wouldn't care. I hope you would and would have that ability. > Privacy is a human right, not a technologically-advanced-person right Yeah I suppose it is, but I'm starting to give up on the idea because all the people who whinge here on HN and elsewhere about p…
I’m not even the OP. Regardless, your entire post is way too defeatist . We can and have made changes that meaningfully improve end-user privacy. For example, Apple’s changes on iOS led to massive reductions in data collected from user apps. This was pushed by people inside Apple. Similarly, governments can and have pushed for privacy regulations. Not all of it has been successful, but we’re at the first wave of thes…
If people actually cared enough to do something this would be solved very quickly indeed but they don't.
> governments can and have pushed for privacy regulations.
Depends. The EU has done not badly at all on this, the American government on the other hand…
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This isn't unique to WhatsApp/Meta though. Many banks require a smartphone running unrooted Android or iOS. Visa/Mastercard(and AMEX I guess) have a polyopoly(?) on cashless transactions, and have done for my entire life. Many government services here in the UK are provided by private corporations, and have been for a very long time. Another way of thinking of it is that the value that Meta/Mastercard/Virgin/other co…
> polyopoly Oligopoly.
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This isn't unique to WhatsApp/Meta though. Many banks require a smartphone running unrooted Android or iOS. Visa/Mastercard(and AMEX I guess) have a polyopoly(?) on cashless transactions, and have done for my entire life. Many government services here in the UK are provided by private corporations, and have been for a very long time. Another way of thinking of it is that the value that Meta/Mastercard/Virgin/other co…
> Many government services here in the UK are provided by private corporations how's that working out? asking for a friend who thinks that for-profit healthcare was a step in the wrong direction.
> for-profit healthcare was a step in the wrong direction.
Using the words "for-profit healthcare" is a distraction from the topic.
GP's have been private since the beginning of the NHS, they're the definition of for-profit healthcare.
On the flip side, Virgin operates many of the major healthcare provdiers as an NHS service provider. I'm not saying that they're incredible, but they're doing it.
The option isn't "public", it's public and sustained funding and investment. Given the govenment of the last decade in the UK, I'm not convinced the situation would be any better if the NHS was more public than it is.
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> This is the sort of thing that I'd be happy if it wasn't dumped into HN. I agree with you but the OP has a bit of a point when it comes to the Irish privacy regulator. It's not the EU as a whole but the way they can pick the country that most suits them. Ireland gets a substantial portion of its GDP from big tech so they are pretty receptive to their point of view and often Ireland has to be persuaded to give highe…
That's a very far cry from the claim that the EU serves at the pleasure of US megacompanies, in fact it documents the opposite: the US megacompanies try everything they can to game the system but end up being fined by the EU in amounts that definitely move the needle. The GDPR is EU law, not country law. Whether member states are able to act effectively with companies playing both ends against the middle is another m…
whats happening? where is the EU fining companies and users(companies) left and right?
the safe harbour/privacy shield agreements were invalidated by EU courts, yet data transfer happens in amounts that are unchanged, where is EU? nothing has changed. the EU ignores everything here because they dare not do anything to upset these US megacompanies. Sure, a fine here and there, doesnt change anything.
show me how im wrong?
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Is there some sort of inside information about EU process around Facebook that you want to share here, or is this just generalized bashing of people who have negative outlooks on particular institutions as cynics?
Trolls will troll I guess. Let's reverse that: how about you show us how the EU is controlled by Facebook instead? Seriously, the degree and number of dumb comments on HN has been going through the roof lately and I'm getting quite fed up with it. You can have a negative outlook on the EU (assuming you're informed enough to have that outlook in the first place) but to make a blanket claim that (US!) megacompanies con…
privacy shield is dead, where is the EU stopping the illegal data transfer that happens everywhere?
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>meta knows that they are far far more popular in the population than politicians, and politicians know that if they were to effectively stop facebook, the blowback would be immediate. If Facebook doesn't want to operate in a region where they're unable to accept payments from local residents that's their business.