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Re: HuggingGPT: Solving AI tasks with ChatGPT and its friends in HuggingFace

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Post by dw_arthur »

fnovd wrote: post #17
maCDzP wrote: post #4

Am I the only one with an uneasy feeling about all these advancements? Are we going fast or is it just because of the buzz? I have a hard time separating the two. It’s very exiting and I want to keep being exited. I don’t want to become terrified.

We've been "moving too fast" since we figured out agriculture. It's fine. The world as you know it will change irreversibly; you'll long for the simplicity of youth; you will bemoan the state of the world we have left for our children... just like every generation before us did. It'll all be fine. Enjoy the ride, it's called life, and it's better than it ever has been.

The power to seriously harm nations may be in the hands of tens of thousands of individuals within a few years. Things might just be different this time.

Re: HuggingGPT: Solving AI tasks with ChatGPT and its friends in HuggingFace

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Post by akiselev »

famouswaffles wrote: post #60
dvt wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the litmus test for intelligence Moving goal posts around is unhelpful. I think my comment was pretty clear in the context of AGI and calling ChatGPT a "math genius."

The fact that people take agi to mean "can invent new math" is a goalpost shift on its own. That was not the original meaning (generally intelligent), that wasn't even the next moved goal (on par with human experts). I guess the next one counts (better than all human experts) but i'm sure we'll move that again too.

The problem was always underspecified. We don’t have a quantifiable metric for intelligence except IQ tests, benchmark datasets like those used to evaluate different LLMs, and other similarly myopic bullshit. “We’ll know it when we see it” becomes the default.

In reality, the goal posts aren’t being moved, we’re just finding out how much further we are from them than we thought. ChatGPT is a "stochastic parrot" that’s seems way “smarter” than anyone thought possible so we have to reevaluate what we consider evidence of intelligence, perhaps coming to terms with the fact that we aren’t that smart the most of the time.

Re: HuggingGPT: Solving AI tasks with ChatGPT and its friends in HuggingFace

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Post by CamelCaseName »

dvt wrote: post #31
Workaccount2 wrote: post #8

I strongly suspect the first AGI will come sooner than expected on the back of a "glue" AI that can intelligently bond together a web of narrow AIs and utilities. I got access to the wolfram plugin for chatGPT, and it turned it from a math dummy to a math genius overnight. A small step for sure, but a hint of what's to come.

> it turned it from a math dummy to a math genius overnight Imo your post fundamentally misunderstands a few things, but mainly how Wolfram works. Wolfram can be seen as a "database" that stores a lot of human mathematical information (along with related algorithms). Wolfram does not make new math . A corollary here is that AGI needs to have the ability to create new math to be truly AGI. But unless fed something lik…

Would AlphaZero or AlphaGo meet your requirements then?

They both created "new Chess / Go" strategies and insights that GMs and top engines hadn't seen before.

Re: HuggingGPT: Solving AI tasks with ChatGPT and its friends in HuggingFace

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Post by maCDzP »

roflyear wrote: post #33
maCDzP wrote: post #4

Am I the only one with an uneasy feeling about all these advancements? Are we going fast or is it just because of the buzz? I have a hard time separating the two. It’s very exiting and I want to keep being exited. I don’t want to become terrified.

What things can this tech do which scare you?

It not that this tech does things now that scare me. Now I am mostly exited.

I believe my uneasiness stems from the unknown potential of this technology.

Now, one could argue that that’s always the case for technology, so why do I feel uneasy now?

I believe that this particular type of technology has a very large potential. I think most HN readers would agree.

But I am not scared, yet. I’ll be scared when I know the technology will do serious damage, until then it’s an uneasy feeling. Then I’ll probably be terrified.

Re: HuggingGPT: Solving AI tasks with ChatGPT and its friends in HuggingFace

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Post by fnovd »

dw_arthur wrote: post #91
fnovd wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've been "moving too fast" since we figured out agriculture. It's fine. The world as you know it will change irreversibly; you'll long for the simplicity of youth; you will bemoan the state of the world we have left for our children... just like every generation before us did. It'll all be fine. Enjoy the ride, it's called life, and it's better than it ever has been.

The power to seriously harm nations may be in the hands of tens of thousands of individuals within a few years. Things might just be different this time.

It will be different this time, just like it was every other time. It still doesn't matter. The epoch of earth's history that happens to overlap with your own lifespan isn't inherently more interesting or important than any other time, except to you. But sure, what good is an exciting new frontier without a gaggle of doomers worried about what's on the other side? Same as it ever was.

Re: HuggingGPT: Solving AI tasks with ChatGPT and its friends in HuggingFace

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Post by famouswaffles »

akiselev wrote: post #92
famouswaffles wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that people take agi to mean "can invent new math" is a goalpost shift on its own. That was not the original meaning (generally intelligent), that wasn't even the next moved goal (on par with human experts). I guess the next one counts (better than all human experts) but i'm sure we'll move that again too.

The problem was always underspecified. We don’t have a quantifiable metric for intelligence except IQ tests, benchmark datasets like those used to evaluate different LLMs, and other similarly myopic bullshit. “We’ll know it when we see it” becomes the default. In reality, the goal posts aren’t being moved, we’re just finding out how much further we are from them than we thought. ChatGPT is a "stochastic parrot" that’…

Sorry but nope. GPT-4 is plenty intelligent. I've begun to question the intelligence of anyone that reduces it to "stochastic parrot" because they're not even arguing against results but arbitrary lines drawn on sand.

The "We'll see it when it comes" line is just utterly wrong, If there's one thing experts seem to agree on is that not everyone will agree when current definition of agi does arrive.

The philosophical zombie is an excellent example of the extent of post shifting we're capable of. Even when a theoretical system that does every single thing right comes, we're looking for a way to discredit it. To put it below what we of course only have.

lots of researchers now aren't questioning GPT's general intelligence. That's how you end up with papers alluding to this technology with amusing names like General purpose technologies(from the jobs paper) or even funnier - General artificial intelligence (from the creativity paper).

You know what the original title of the microsoft paper was? "First contact with an agi system". and maybe it's just me but reading it, i got the sense they thought it too.

Re: HuggingGPT: Solving AI tasks with ChatGPT and its friends in HuggingFace

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Post by baq »

catchnear4321 wrote: post #86
avereveard wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gpt plus langchain agents is quite scary It will use every tool you give it to reach the goal you give him. It will try forever if needed. I bet state actor are already plugging in tooling to register social account and automate credible propaganda. Maybe not with gpt itself, but privately hosted fine tuned models. This can win elections. You can plug wordpress and build infinite blogs with infinite post with the uni…

Humans have been doing all of this and more, for a very long time. This simply exposes all of the cracks in the foundations of our society. There are severely exploitable issues, and we may wind up with a planet-level chaos monkey. Ghostbusters had the stay-puft marshmallow man. Will the form of our destroyer be the woot monkey?

Yes it was possible. Steel was also available before the industrial revolution... but guess what, it's called a revolution for reason? It become cheap enough to upend preexisting social status quo. It was a social phase transition caused by technology.

We're dealing with a very nascent AI revolution right now. A social phase transition has already started: on the forefront there are graphic artists (midjourney v5 is literally revolutionizing the industry as we speak) and NLP researchers (GPT-4 has reduced the need for applied NLP to basically zero), but it's only a start. The cheapness and availability changes everything.

Re: HuggingGPT: Solving AI tasks with ChatGPT and its friends in HuggingFace

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Post by eternalban »

dvt wrote: post #69
eternalban wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will you settle for whiz? Interesting q for us to consider is how do we come up with "new ideas". I think we can consider play (in the abstract sense) to be a significant element of the process. Play is a pleasurable self-motivated activity . I am certain an AGI (if such a thing exists) will need to be playful.

Totally agree. Recently read Finite and Infinite Games[1] and The Grasshopper: Life, Games, and Utopia[2] and I'm more or less convinced motivations are always essentially games. [1] https://www.amazon.com/Finite-Infinite-Games-James-Carse/dp/... [2] https://www.amazon.com/Grasshopper-Third-Games-Life-Utopia/d...

Thanks for book refs. Would you recommend any of them for a bright teen? [1] sounded like a good candidate.

Re: HuggingGPT: Solving AI tasks with ChatGPT and its friends in HuggingFace

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Post by acdanger »

Manjuuu wrote: post #73
fnovd wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've been "moving too fast" since we figured out agriculture. It's fine. The world as you know it will change irreversibly; you'll long for the simplicity of youth; you will bemoan the state of the world we have left for our children... just like every generation before us did. It'll all be fine. Enjoy the ride, it's called life, and it's better than it ever has been.

We should have had a moratorium on potatoes, look at us now.

Maybe a moratorium on the Haber process though.

Re: HuggingGPT: Solving AI tasks with ChatGPT and its friends in HuggingFace

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Post by Game_Ender »

roflyear wrote: post #62
marshray wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you actually tried it? GPT-4: "The forward mapping M that I created to map positive integers to English sentences is based on a general guideline, where smaller-valued numbers generally correspond to shorter sentences using more common words. However, this mapping is not a perfect bijection, meaning there isn't necessarily a one-to-one correspondence between integers and sentences. The generation of sentences is…

I am getting super tired of these responses. Yes, I have tried it. Please converse in good faith. GPT-4 has never, not once, in dozens of hours of use, asked me a clarifying question. It cannot understand things.

One user said they got it ask for help by having a prompt asking it to ask some, but not too many clarifying questions.

With the instruction tuning it feels like model really wants to single shot respond vs. do a back and forth. So like a junior engineer who does ask for help you have to give it a hand.

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