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GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by exhilaration »

kstrauser wrote: post #68
nickthegreek wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back in 2017, I didnt buy a toyota for the first time because they didn't offer carplay. I refuse to be stuck with a subpar experience for the 10 years I normally keep a vehicle. Absolutely ridiculous to not support both CarPlay and Android Auto.

That's where I'm at. Our 2016 Toyota has their horrible Entune system, and however much I like everything else about it, that thing irritates me every time I look at it.

Good news for both of you: I rented a 2022 Corolla and it supported both CarPlay and Android Auto. Toyota gave in!

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by veilrap »

jfengel wrote: post #175
gwbas1c wrote: post #160

> We do believe there are subscription revenue opportunities for us ... aiming for $20 billion to $25 I really, really do not want a subscription. My Teslas' subscription appears to be at cost; I doubt Tesla is making billions off of subscription fees for maps. But, even though Tesla's infotainment system is a lot more slick than Android Auto, I must admit that at times I'd rather use that. I still use Youtube Music,…

Could you use Bluetooth to play YouTube music? It sounds like it wouldn't be a great experience, since YouTube probably has features that Bluetooth doesn't support. But does it at least solve the main part of the problem, or does that somehow not work? (I have a podcast app that I sometimes play through Bluetooth when I can't connect via Android Auto. The Bluetooth version is less good, but it does let me listen even…

Yeah, bluetooth for things like YouTube music works fine, but it's not as streamlined - e.g. you have to do searching on the phone.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by QuarterReptile »

joshstrange wrote: post #52

I largely ignored CarPlay since it came out since my car didn't support it and I didn't feel like I was missing much vs my mounted phone but recently I borrowed a car for a few days that had CarPlay and I really enjoyed it. So much better than anything from any car manufacturer and the integration was flawless. In fact, my biggest issue was figuring out how to get back into the CarPlay UI from the car default UI when…

Does carplay hijack the phone pretty aggressively? I've tried the Android one a few times, but it prevents manipulation of the phone while you're riding and the phone has to ask of the head unit (and be rejected) permission to disable Bluetooth to restore the phone. Then you have to ask the driver to get, unlock, and relinquish his phone for you to accomplish the task.

It's possible I was the victim of bad default settings, as I turned the whole thing off each time after this happened.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by Tempest1981 »

flyingcircus3 wrote: post #61
KMnO4 wrote: post #4

I don’t think I would buy a car that didn’t have CarPlay. I’m an iPhone user and have no interest in changing my phone. People reject cars all the time for even more trivial things (oh — this one doesn’t have wireless charging? Next.), so I can’t imagine this being a smart idea for GM.

The reactions in this thread are interesting, because they seem to imply that this is the final straw that has convinced us to not buy Chevrolets and Buicks, as opposed to the last 30+ years of of their products being generally terrible.

But the hope was that their new EV lineup would change things, and pull people back.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by zaroth »

bratsche wrote: post #158
bb123 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Model 3’s system is one of the few out there that can actually compete with/replace CarPlay.

Model 3's system is better than other cars I've owned, but not as good as what I think CarPlay can be. The only advantage of my Model 3 vs the rental cars I've used with CarPlay was that Model 3's screen is bigger and nicer and so the maps look nicer and I can have music info/controls on screen at the same time as maps. But both Apple and Google navigation is a lot better than Tesla's navigation. I also use Apple Mus…

The UI updates essentially once a year to keep up the with massive influx of features that are being added, and keep those features accessible and organized on the available screen real estate.

Basically with Tesla you get the latest model year car software on an ongoing basis, and it’s revolutionary from an owner’s perspective.

The alternative is needing to trade in/buy a whole new model year car to get to enjoy whatever new feature, which is how it always used to work, and is so scammy.

If you don’t want the latest software, you can always choose not the install it, but you would be seriously limiting the performance, comfort, safety and entertainment value of your car.

Most cars don’t get faster, safer, and cheaper to operate after you buy them, but Tesla’s do. The obvious trade-off to getting the latest model year’s software and features is getting the latest model year’s UI as well.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by KennyBlanken »

nashashmi wrote: post #156
kiawe_fire wrote: post #150

Well this sucks. I bought a Chevy Blazer last year, and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. Great balance of design, gas mileage, comfort, etc. I was definitely planning to make my next car the EV version of this. Part of that package is flawless CarPlay integration. It’s simplified the music and navigation experience more than I ever thought possible. The only reason I wouldn’t demand it on my next car is if somethin…

I think the data collection part is a surmise from the author.

It's not supposition. Every vehicle that has telematics hardware, regardless of subscription status or options purchased, is sending a near constant stream of location, vehicle, and environmental data back to the manufacturer.

The only way to stop it is to disconnect the antenna for the cellular modem or cut its power.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by nickthegreek »

exhilaration wrote: post #181
kstrauser wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's where I'm at. Our 2016 Toyota has their horrible Entune system, and however much I like everything else about it, that thing irritates me every time I look at it.

Good news for both of you: I rented a 2022 Corolla and it supported both CarPlay and Android Auto. Toyota gave in!

Well they got about 4 years before I need another car, unfortunately for them my new minimum requirements are going to also include EV. VW id.4 is my current leader.
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