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I don’t think I would buy a car that didn’t have CarPlay. I’m an iPhone user and have no interest in changing my phone. People reject cars all the time for even more trivial things (oh — this one doesn’t have wireless charging? Next.), so I can’t imagine this being a smart idea for GM.
For a long time I said "Just give me keyless entry/start, bluetooth, and a backup camera and I'll be happy" but now I really want CarPlay as well. The car I was driving was much nicer than mine in a number of ways (adaptive cruise control, lane keeping assist, etc, all stuff I enjoyed) but CarPlay was the one thing I'd really love to have.
Quite odd that we decide which $80,000 car to buy based on what remote display server protocol it supports.
I've used maps/navigation with Android Auto, but really, it's the audio directions that are the killer app, not a visual map. So I usually just set it up on my phone, and not my cars screen.
What else is there to do on a car's touchscreen? Or are we just in the novelty phase of this technology? I'll admit it was a deciding factor in my latest car purchase. But the novelty has worn off, and if it would have been an optional feature with an additional cost, I would certainly have buyer's remorse.
GM showing itself to be actively user hostile with this.
Owners will be paying an extra subscription cost for these apps to be in their car which are already on their phone.
Google Maps subscription free in these GM EVs only for the first 8 years. Then you pay a subscription with recurring billing.
These vehicles are no longer a consideration with this user hostile orientation. I hope this sends GM to bankruptcy round 2 and deters other car manufacturers from this nonsense.
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I agree. I wish there were bare-bare-bones options with a radio and ac/heat. I will use my phone otherwise.
Give me an Aux jack or give me dea- Well, shit. Fine, give me bluetooth or give me death!
I have a car with just aux, and I bought a $37 aux to bluetooth adapter [1] that works perfectly. It is a small puck shaped thing you can attach on the dash, with physical buttons for play/pause/prev/next, a good-enough microphone and you can answer/end calls with the play button.
If they release Bluetooth 6.0 or whatever with cool new features, then in a couple of years when I've bought a phone that supports this, I can just buy a new Bluetooth adapter.
[1] https://www.ebay.com/itm/185493363534?hash=item2b30441b4e:g:...
I don’t think I would buy a car that didn’t have CarPlay. I’m an iPhone user and have no interest in changing my phone. People reject cars all the time for even more trivial things (oh — this one doesn’t have wireless charging? Next.), so I can’t imagine this being a smart idea for GM.
Not to mention, isn’t CarPlay just an interface for the phone to be able to connect to so the screen can display the software operating on the phone? Near zero cost to GM, tons of convenience for GM’s customers. I can only imagine GM wants customers’ data or subscription fees, and Apple will not allow that. And this is a business that got bailed out by US taxpayers, and is explicitly too big to fail.
GM doesn't want Apple or Google taking over the UX of the car, because then GM is eventually just another FoxConn
and sure, there's a money thing...they want revshare from Spotify and every other app they can position in the UI
CarPlay and Android Auto will be gone as fast as car makers can make it happen
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Not to mention, isn’t CarPlay just an interface for the phone to be able to connect to so the screen can display the software operating on the phone? Near zero cost to GM, tons of convenience for GM’s customers. I can only imagine GM wants customers’ data or subscription fees, and Apple will not allow that. And this is a business that got bailed out by US taxpayers, and is explicitly too big to fail.
problem is (from GM's perspective), with CarPlay, Apple takes over the UX of the car...the Apple logo is the first and last thing people see when driving GM doesn't want Apple or Google taking over the UX of the car, because then GM is eventually just another FoxConn and sure, there's a money thing...they want revshare from Spotify and every other app they can position in the UI CarPlay and Android Auto will be gone…