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GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Is the Android Auto interface part of Android open source? If it is, what stops Apple from making CarPlay compatible with Android Auto protocols?

The same thing that stops Apple from making their phones USB-C compatible, or iMessage RCS compatible, or making the app store back-end not require xCode and a mac merely to upload a file. They are a monopoly, and they are trying to coerce consumers to give them more money.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

#32

I don't want my car to team up with anyone, please. I don't want an already-outdated LCD screen and proprietary operating system in there becoming obsolete even faster than the battery wears out. I wish there were better options for that.

Isn't that the point of CarPlay and android auto? You don't have to rely on auto manufacturers to design the UI/UX for that screen and don't depend on the their OTA updates either.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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I don't want my car to team up with anyone, please. I don't want an already-outdated LCD screen and proprietary operating system in there becoming obsolete even faster than the battery wears out. I wish there were better options for that.

isnt that basically their point though

It seems like their point is to be able to capture more driver data, and get a nice sum from Google for making them the default (only?) map software. I would rather not have their OS at all.

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I don’t think I would buy a car that didn’t have CarPlay. I’m an iPhone user and have no interest in changing my phone. People reject cars all the time for even more trivial things (oh — this one doesn’t have wireless charging? Next.), so I can’t imagine this being a smart idea for GM.

Not to mention, isn’t CarPlay just an interface for the phone to be able to connect to so the screen can display the software operating on the phone? Near zero cost to GM, tons of convenience for GM’s customers. I can only imagine GM wants customers’ data or subscription fees, and Apple will not allow that. And this is a business that got bailed out by US taxpayers, and is explicitly too big to fail.

It’s a cost to GM because they can’t nickel and dime their customers with subscription fees if customers can use the phone service they already have.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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I don’t think I would buy a car that didn’t have CarPlay. I’m an iPhone user and have no interest in changing my phone. People reject cars all the time for even more trivial things (oh — this one doesn’t have wireless charging? Next.), so I can’t imagine this being a smart idea for GM.

Not the only reason, but was definitely one reason that contributed to the decision to cancel my Model 3 order and go with a Kia EV6 instead.

The Model 3’s system is one of the few out there that can actually compete with/replace CarPlay.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

#36
Also getting rid of Android Auto, according to the original source:

General Motors plans to phase out widely-used Apple CarPlay and Android Auto technologies that allow drivers to bypass a vehicle's infotainment systems, shifting instead to built-in infotainment systems developed with Google for future electric vehicles.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-plans-phase-apple-carplay-...

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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post #21

That's a huge mistake. I shit you not when I say CarPlay was the main thing I looked when I bought my last car.

Ditto. I also am shopping for a new car just for the sole purpose of having wireless CarPlay. I put over 100k miles on my car in 3 years so I would consider myself in the well above average tier for car usage. Apple CarPlay has improved the driving experience considerably.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Obviously they entered into an exclusive partnership like this with Google after a lot of thought. I cannot imagine what google gave them for that. The main question for me is, how is it benefitting Google? Does GM sell that many cars? Do the users data on their drives worth that much to them? Or is it just a play to make Apple appear weaker?

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the only reason, but was definitely one reason that contributed to the decision to cancel my Model 3 order and go with a Kia EV6 instead.

I said my next car would have to have CarPlay but the Tesla software in my Y is good enough to live without it. I rent a lot of cars with CarPlay, and like it, but now that the Tesla software supports both Apple Music and Spotify, I’m good. That said, I wouldn’t buy a car that supported Google Carwhatever but not Apple CarPlay.

As far as i know the tesla car has its own spotify account. So this only works, if you’re the only one driving your car. In my family up to five people drive a car - I don’t think i want one spotify-account used by five people.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

#40

Quite odd that we decide which $80,000 car to buy based on what remote display server protocol it supports.

If I had $80,000 to spend on a car, "works with stuff I already own and use" would definitely be a litmus test for me.
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