AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my projects

Post by Herval_freire » Fri, Mar 31, 2023, 4:23 PM UTC

koonsolo wrote: post #386

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>To use a relatively modern analogy, AI-enhanced development is to developers what Photoshop is to photographers. Photography as a job has been hit heavily by modern smart phone advances. Heavily. It's now very hard to get paid a living wage as a photographer. With mid journey it's now even harder. Photographers weren't completely replaced. I would say they were mostly replaced because now every Tom dick and Jane can…

I know a few photographers and they have plenty of work and make nice money. The pictures that they take can't be compared with someone taking a picture with a smartphone. Both wedding photography and family/portraits.

Post by Elte » Fri, Mar 31, 2023, 4:32 PM UTC

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ThePhysicist wrote: post #30

What I really love is the unbounded optimism of the AI. How many colleagues could you ask "Can you write me a PoC for a horizontally scalable, probabilistic database in Rust, using Raft-based consensus?" that would then just think for a second and go "Certainly! Let's start by ...". These people exist, but they're one in a thousand (or million?). ChatGPT basically does that for almost every prompt you throw at it. So…

Am I the only one that's been disappointed with GPT for coding? It's good at using common libraries and frameworks but for stuff using more niche libraries it fails miserably almost every time, to the extent that by the time I've debugged and written prompts to try and get it to do it properly I've spent more time than needed still good for handling a lot of grunge work and really useful for doing the stuff where I'm…

Post by xseparator » Fri, Mar 31, 2023, 4:34 PM UTC

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I can assure you, as a former quality engineer at a medical device development facility, that there is absolutely, positively zero chance that anyone there will use any AI-powered coding tools to write code that goes onto any device that is ISO-13485, CE, or otherwise compliant to some existing medical device regulations (I speak in the USA and European markets; I cannot speak for other markets). There is literally a…

I would offer similar sentiment for aerospace.

Post by Turing_Machine » Fri, Mar 31, 2023, 4:39 PM UTC

eloff wrote: post #335

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I cannot step in one of those machines without wondering if there is a hardware cutoff.

I went with a mechanic in a chair lift once. He was very nervous, saying he knows the kind of people who maintain these things, and he knows the kinds of things that can go wrong. I feel the same way about automation, whether it be self driving cars or an X-ray machine. I know the kind of people that program them, and the vast number of ways things can go wrong.

Post by throwthrowuknow » Fri, Mar 31, 2023, 4:45 PM UTC

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I do not think that OP is arguing you should not learn the basics. Tools like Copilot are very useful because if you need to create a function that takes a FLOAT in addition to the one you just wrote that takes an INT then its right there already. Sometimes I am just trying to bang together something quick for testing just so I can continue on with the actual project. When I learned to write I did not just paste from…

> I do not think that OP is arguing you should not learn the basics. That's not my point, per se. > It's clear that we have too much grunt work. What one might see as "grunt work" is what another might see as "learning the ropes". You can make the case "with ChatGPT, we no longer need to learn the ropes". But it's really hard to predict how that will affect the next generation of engineers -- I don't even know if "en…