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Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by Mizoguchi »

nforgerit wrote: post #218

Gosh. Only about 10 years ago I used to be a convinced European from Germany. The last couple of years I started having my doubts that the EU will ever find its own legit style of handling tech concerns. Everything is crumbling and we still see deeply arrogant leadership seemingly trying to bs their way through the current turmoil. And what do they do? Regulate ChatGPT, try to introduce mass-surveillance through #cha…

Ironically they seem to be ok with the CCP controlling their telecommunications.

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Post by tfourb »

ReptileMan wrote: post #295
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> didn't implement the "consent dialog" just right I think it’s called a “consent thingy”

It's called "That one more piece of Brussels crap that didn't solve the problem but makes people lives worse"

Not sure how "less ChatGPT" is making anyone's live worse but I guess that is a matter of opinion.

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Post by nforgerit »

iso1631 wrote: post #331
nforgerit wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the beginning of GDPR I remember me sitting in annoying meetings with lawyers who essentially became Product Owners and designers while I still thought the GDPR-Framework makes sense in itself and might help in practice. But boy was I wrong. The people criticizing GDPR were right: Tech giants were able to cope better with the regulations while smaller domestic companies were put under an additional burden of exces…

> And from what I perceive, there's now cookie banners everywhere while my personal data is still going into opaque silos. Those cookie banners are either non-compliant with the regulations or meaningless. Why people add them is anyones guess.

Yeah. Mozilla with their ad-network visualization and browser extensions did more to privacy in practice than any GDPR regulation in which exchanging business cards became some kind of mexican standoff.

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Post by stametseater »

nforgerit wrote: post #288
ddren wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the issue with the GDPR? If OpenAI is violating the GDPR, why should European governments ignore it?

In the beginning of GDPR I remember me sitting in annoying meetings with lawyers who essentially became Product Owners and designers while I still thought the GDPR-Framework makes sense in itself and might help in practice. But boy was I wrong. The people criticizing GDPR were right: Tech giants were able to cope better with the regulations while smaller domestic companies were put under an additional burden of exces…

The people on this site who criticize the GDPR don't even know what the GDPR does, including you. Cookie banners aren't from the GDPR, they're from the ePrivacy Directive as amended in 2009. I don't understand how you people even mix this up, the cookie banners appeared several years before the GDPR existed. It's like this site is a big pity party of surveillance capitalists whining into an echo chamber, remixing and repeating each other's confusions without any feedback from reality.

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Post by kobalsky »

Dave3of5 wrote: post #334

I really wish hn would ban posts on ChatGPT /s. Seriously though this site could do with a filter like the major subreddits.

personally I don't mind seeing when some tech is overreported because it's an interesting indicator.

but you should write a js filter yourself, should be easy with Tampermonkey. or you could stay on reddit of course.

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Post by amitrip »

nemo44x wrote: post #120
Zurrrrr wrote: post #87

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Singapore has to be one of the worst places to live. I don't care how 'nice' their society might seem, their overstep is too steep by far. "Custom officers can subject travellers to a drug screening test at the point of entry to Singapore. If you test positive for drugs, you can be arrested and prosecuted, even if the drugs were consumed prior to your arrival in the country." That's insanity.

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Post by switch007 »

Aromasin wrote: post #244
dagorenouf wrote: post #130

Europe on top of innovation once again. Watch out US and China! /s (I say this as a French citizen)

About once a week I consider dropping out of the tech industry and becoming a politician just so I don't have to sit and watch by the sidelines as incompetent, ignorant people, who studied humanities with not a drop a technical aptitude, bullshit their way through funding and regulating technology. They are never well informed enough to come up with any sort or coherent solution, because they're barely capable in act…

It would be nice for ministers to be tech experts but politics is an art and a game too, and they also have to be good at that.

I don’t have much of a problem with a minister who knows they’re not an expert but makes it a top priority to surround themselves with people who are, and to listen to them, who has good morals.

That of course describes zero Tory ministers but one can dream.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Post by aaroninsf »

sorokod wrote: post #155
SanderNL wrote: post #125

'exposes "minors to absolutely unsuitable answers compared to the their degree of development and self-awareness."' So do (certain) books. That's another issue right? If you let your minor access stuff, they.. access stuff. Hard to control? I know and it is. How is this specific to OpenAI?

Do you see the qualitative difference between all of the following that can cause harm: * a box of matches * a handgun * an assault rifle * a 50 cal BMG * an ICBM with nuclear MIRV Saying that X has a property similar to the one Y has while ignoring the magnitude of the difference is silly.

This is arguing by analogy via what amounts to an extraordinary claim without evidence.

There is no current plausible evident mapping from the example, to any LLM-powered service currently on offer, leastwise in Italian.

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Post by revelio »

isp wrote: post #314
revelio wrote: post #98

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They already stopped using chats as training material for everyone anyway, so if that's the basis for the ban then it's already wrong. But what do you expect? This is exactly the kind of problem people have constantly pointed out with the GDPR. It's vague, has many unintended consequences, massively empowers low-competence regulatory regimes and constantly interferes with innovation and new tech. The EU will continue…

> They already stopped using chats as training material for everyone anyway From the latest ChatGPT General FAQ [0]: > Will you use my conversations for training? Yes. Your conversations may be reviewed by our AI trainers to improve our systems. [0] https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6783457-chatgpt-general-...

You're right, I was mistaken. What they changed is they now offer the ability to opt-out of that:

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6950777-chatgpt-plus

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScrnC-_A7JFs4LbIuze...

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