I think it’s a shame to even waste time talking about that “letter”
If AI scaling is to be shut down, let it be for a coherent reason
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#22u want a coherent reason? look at all the people you could feed with the money instead.
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#23This is the best PR campaign that openAI ever created
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#24>> same sorts of safeguards as nuclear weapons
Seems impossible. If making a nuclear weapon required merely a few branches of a willow tree and baking powder, regulation would be pretty hard. We would just have to live with the risks. It seems we will be at this level with AI at some point fairly soon.
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#25A little off-topic, but does anyone wonder what kind of AI tech the CIA or DARPA or the NSA might have? Or what they might be building?
It's a little scary that a small private company could create an AI that has dominated headlines for over a month now. Surely, the folks at NSA, who have more data than anyone else, have taken notice and are working on something of their own.
Am I being paranoid about a potential tool that lists out a bunch of names and addresses for queries like "list of people who have said X about Y online"?
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#26Why are we even bothering talking about this? It's Gary Marcus "neural networks don't really work" suddenly discovering they do, and literally trying to shut down research in that area while keeping his prefered research areas funded. We know a bunch of the people whose names are on the letter didn't sign it (eg Yann Lecunn who said he disagreed with the premise and didn't sign it). I'm so offended by the idea of thi…
Assuming the training is based on public data, then making it illegal is like a "thought crime" where the state is trying to prohibit carrying out certain computations. Well if I believe the government has no right to control my thoughts, then I believe it has no right to control whatever computation I do on my private computer as well.
Down with these ** control freaks, so much of everything nowadays prioritizes safety over freedom. This time let's put freedom first.
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#27I read the times article, and I also watched Lex Fridman's talk with Eliezer Yudkowsky. Frankly I don't think he is qualified, and I don't understand why anyone is even giving him any credence. His argument is literally: > A mis-aligned super AGI will result in the death of humanity I ask, how . He is making reductive logical leaps that don't make sense. It's FUD.
I don’t think it even requires that AI to be sentient or malicious. The humans already are. Given a tool for carnage and hatred, people will use it. How long did it take from us getting the atomic bomb working to use in production? Less than three months.
Will Putin or terrorists hold back from using it in terrible ways if they have it available to them?
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#28Sure let's ban it, only to find out 6 months later that each of these companies simply obscured the development to try and get an edge. oh no! a 5 million(etc.) fine? too bad that's nowhere near how much profit their product will incur. Life goes on.
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#29I read the times article, and I also watched Lex Fridman's talk with Eliezer Yudkowsky. Frankly I don't think he is qualified, and I don't understand why anyone is even giving him any credence. His argument is literally: > A mis-aligned super AGI will result in the death of humanity I ask, how . He is making reductive logical leaps that don't make sense. It's FUD.
Well the first thing we can do is start disconnecting safety critical infrastructure from the Internet and/or radio networks... This stuff should never have been online in the first place.
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#30It’s far too late for AI Research to be shutdown.