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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #76

I don't understand this? What is so different from ChatGPT compared to say Google scraping and storing the entire world wide web?

it's just the lack of a policy on user data collection that the users can read, the chance to ask to get their data removed from the training data - gdpr - and an age verification for the users.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #103

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> We don't need "watchdogs" "protecting" us from stuff we want to do ourselves. I fully agree. But do Europeans in general? Where I am (Sweden) the whole point of politics seems to be to “protect” us from ourselves.

That's actually the sad message being conveyed by this, right? "You are so dumb, you need to be protected by the state doing stupid things with your data."

And I get it and usually agree. Some things are dangerous, like toxic materials I don't know about and cannot know about. I expect some agency to protect me, because in this domain I am too stupid.

Oh wait.. the whole world is not a developer. I can definitely see how some people need protection here. Even developers are inputting sensitive code and info about their work. Weird times.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #77

Good summary: https://www.politico.eu/article/italian-privacy-regulator-ba... The key issue under GDPR seems to be that OpenAI: > lacks a legal basis justifying "the mass collection and storage of personal data ... to 'train' the algorithms" of ChatGPT" My reading: OpenAI could comply with this by modifying ChatGPT to give users protected by GDPR a clear choice to opt-in vs opt-out on their chats being used as future…

not just that: another, for example, will be to give the ability for any user to remove his/her data (and also to be able to download).

Then some more: I don't think OpenAI will have problems implement it, they are probably just late.

But the big issue may be another one (I hope to be wrong): if I train my model with the contributions of many users, then some users ask me to remove their 'contribution', am I able to do it?

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #76

I don't understand this? What is so different from ChatGPT compared to say Google scraping and storing the entire world wide web?

Why does it need to be different from Google in order to act against it?

If they are the same, why hasn't Google been banned in Italy all these years?

There must be something fundamentally different between the two, and I'm not sure what it is.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #76

I don't understand this? What is so different from ChatGPT compared to say Google scraping and storing the entire world wide web?

it's just the lack of a policy on user data collection that the users can read, the chance to ask to get their data removed from the training data - gdpr - and an age verification for the users.

This makes sense to me. Thank you!

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #89

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Everyone who opposes Silicon Valley is a fascist? Meloni hasn't really done much and appeases the EU on most issues. Berlusconi was already called a fascist 20 years ago. If Italy has a problem, it is too much bureaucracy, not fascism.

It's authoritarian to prevent their citizens from using a tool that makes them more productive and gives them a way to explore a new technology. Imagine if Italy banned Google searches in 2002. Actually, China did that and we rightfully called them authoritarian then, just like we should call Italy authoritarian now.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

#117
post #110

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This would be more believable if giant companies weren't already choking on every detail of every part of our lives just because you put a checkmark somewhere. Going after OpenAI seems like a move to pretend to still be relevant.

Hmmm, no. I am pretty sure giant companies had to adapt to GDPR, and any (found) violation is persecuted accordingly.

Yes, they added a dialog saying "we care about your privacy" and you said "SURE!".

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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post #114

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Why does it need to be different from Google in order to act against it?

If they are the same, why hasn't Google been banned in Italy all these years? There must be something fundamentally different between the two, and I'm not sure what it is.

A rather fundamental difference is that Google is relatively GDPR compliant because it deletes PII within 30 days. OpenAI has this data be baked into the model and if it turns out to surface out from there, it's unclear how they would delete it.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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They are kind of late to the game in this. Italians have already given their souls to Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Twitter, and so on. So have we all.

Very strange to me that a chatbot is the turning point for many people to start caring about their data and ethics

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

#120
post #87

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Singapore actually does drug tests on random Singaporeans returning from holidays to enforce exactly that.

Singapore has to be one of the worst places to live. I don't care how 'nice' their society might seem, their overstep is too steep by far. "Custom officers can subject travellers to a drug screening test at the point of entry to Singapore. If you test positive for drugs, you can be arrested and prosecuted, even if the drugs were consumed prior to your arrival in the country." That's insanity.

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