They're not banning it just because its AI. They're banning it because it sends sensitive data to Microsoft without the user's consent.
The user is doing it. They are literally typing it. They are consenting to this. We don't need "watchdogs" "protecting" us from stuff we want to do ourselves.
> We don't need "watchdogs" "protecting" us from stuff we want to do ourselves.
I fully agree. But do Europeans in general? Where I am (Sweden) the whole point of politics seems to be to “protect” us from ourselves.
[translation with google] Provision of March 30, 2023 Register of measures n. 112 of 30 March 2023 THE GUARANTOR FOR THE PROTECTION OF PERSONAL DATA HAVING REGARD TO Regulation (EU) 2016/679 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 27 April 2016 (hereinafter, the "Regulation"); HAVING REGARD also to the Personal Data Protection Code (Legislative Decree No. 196 of 30 June 2003); NOTING the numerous interventio…
And here is a translation by ChatGPT (GPT-4) together with a diff against what Google Translate provided you: https://www.diffchecker.com/gPop1UpU/ (Google Translate on the left, GPT-4 on the right) Now we just need a authentic Italian to tell us which version is most accurate :)
Curiously, their flaws balance out to neither being all that better. GPT-4 gets some words right, but changes the formal tone to something more casual, which doesn’t happen with Google’s translation. If it didn’t, it would probably be the better translation.
It has held up quite well so far. https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/guides/international-t...
That link doesn't really show anything useful. I'll wait to see how it holds up when the EU tries to enforce it against a US website with no presence of any kind in the EU.
> I'll wait to see how it holds up when the EU tries to enforce it against a US website with no presence of any kind in the EU.
That's called moving the goalposts.
But even in that case: the EU has a lot of power and no matter what you are still required to have a legal presence in the EU if you want to serve EU customers. Breaking the law is generally not the best course of action for any company that wants to stay in business over the longer term.
I am actually very happy about this. If you like to have no protection over how big corporate treats your data as your own, and ingests whatever whenever they need to profit off your personal information, be my guest. But I am happy to have a watchdog over my basic human rights. > However, I often sense that in many places, the country seems to be entrenched in its medieval past. It might be. But not on this front.
You're talking about a website you have to specifically visit and type your personal information in to, which doesn't even ask for your name and which is simultaneously being accused of not knowing enough about you (your age). There is no "protection" needed here. If you don't like it, don't use it.
I don't use it.
Read the ruling. They are specifically referring to the data leak of some days ago that revealed personal information of GPT users that 1) was not explicitly collected and 2) was available to subjects that should not handle it (other users).
I really don't get this kind of bans. When I connect to a service in the US, my bits are traveling there. Italy "banning" ChatGPT (whatever it means) is like preventing me from getting high in Amsterdam because, as an Italian citizen, I should not be allowed to.. Never got it, and never will.
You are ignoring everything GDPR is about. European data, European rules.
Good summary: https://www.politico.eu/article/italian-privacy-regulator-ba... The key issue under GDPR seems to be that OpenAI: > lacks a legal basis justifying "the mass collection and storage of personal data ... to 'train' the algorithms" of ChatGPT" My reading: OpenAI could comply with this by modifying ChatGPT to give users protected by GDPR a clear choice to opt-in vs opt-out on their chats being used as future…
They already stopped using chats as training material for everyone anyway, so if that's the basis for the ban then it's already wrong. But what do you expect? This is exactly the kind of problem people have constantly pointed out with the GDPR. It's vague, has many unintended consequences, massively empowers low-competence regulatory regimes and constantly interferes with innovation and new tech. The EU will continue to ban new technologies whilst simultaneously hosting endless summits trying to figure out why there's no EU Silicon Valley equivalent, without being able to notice the answer staring them in the face. Very sad.
It has held up quite well so far. https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/guides/international-t...
That link doesn't really show anything useful. I'll wait to see how it holds up when the EU tries to enforce it against a US website with no presence of any kind in the EU.
> I'll wait to see how it holds up when the EU tries to enforce it against a US website with no presence of any kind in the EU.
[Google Translation] Artificial Intelligence: The Guarantor blocks ChatGPT Illegal collection of personal data. Absence of systems for verifying the age of minors Stop ChatGPT until it respects the privacy regulation. The Guarantor for the protection of personal data has ordered, with immediate effect, the temporary limitation of the processing of data of Italian users against OpenAI, the US company that developed an…
This 4% rule really has teeth. It is even more interesting for Microsoft, where this would probably eat most of the profit.
I wonder why corporations that don't have a physical presence in other jurisdictions play along. Technically, a country can block services they don't like. It really is their problem if their citizens are choosing to use a foreign service.
Is there a legal reason to play along? Trade agreement violation? Or, is it just a matter of wanting to keep those markets.