For those not able to access the site due to ISP-blocking try setting your DNS to 8.8.8.8 and/or 4.4.4.4 (which is Google's DNS server) as they often just block the site in the DNS.
I think that's 8.8.4.4, not 4.4.4.4?
You are right sir!
Year of the storm
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Re: Year of the storm
#52Hmm. """What binds us all together is a strong belief that what we do is good.""" What is 'good' about the pirate bay? A site which is 95% dedicated to sharing copyrighted content? The Pirate Bay exists to make money for its founders. This is why it has so many intrusive ad's constantly popping up. They aren't on any mission. They are just raking in money at other people's expense. """Our 3 friends and blood brothers…
A site which is 95% dedicated to sharing copyrighted content [citation needed] The Pirate Bay exists to make money for its founders. This is why it has so many intrusive ad's constantly popping up. The Pirate Bay exists to make it possible for people to share content, but bandwidth and infrastructure is not free. The pirate bay is such a target because the people who run it humiliate and insult people with very deep…
Can you honestly say that the pirate bay isn't dedicated, and almost exclusively used for the distribution of material protected by copyright? Drawing attention to the fact that he hasn't cited any specific research on what is plainly evident for everyone does nothing to promote an adult discussion about the topic. Furthermore, claiming that the author hates extroverts due to some underlaying psychological issues is really unnecessary.
Why is it so hard to have an open, honest, mature discussion about piracy and the pirate bay? All the attempts to make P2P out to be some political statement, is highly disingenuous in my opinion. I pirate quite regularly. But it is never about some lofty ideals regarding personal freedoms, or commentary on corporate influence, in truth, I just want something, which happens to be easily and readily accessed, free of charge. Is this stealing? I'm not sure, but I'm inclined to think its a close cousin. Is it a plus for society, and something that ought to be fostered? Quite possibly.
Why not talk about this stuff and stop acting like piracy is some noble pursuit?
I find it hard to believe that anyone seriously believes that the pirate bay is an agent promoting peace within the world, and liberating oppressed peoples. Why do we kid ourselves?
Re: Year of the storm
#53It is sad, but I cannot read this blog post. The Dutch equivalent of the RIAA/MPAA, named Brein, sued two of the major Dutch ISPs for not blocking access to The Pirate Bay. Brein won the court case, and the judge required these ISPs to block The Pirate Bay starting yesterday. Now I am met with this when visiting thepiratebay.se: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/blokkade.png/ Internet censorship is now real in…
torproject.org isn't blocked, is it?
Re: Year of the storm
#54Hmm. """What binds us all together is a strong belief that what we do is good.""" What is 'good' about the pirate bay? A site which is 95% dedicated to sharing copyrighted content? The Pirate Bay exists to make money for its founders. This is why it has so many intrusive ad's constantly popping up. They aren't on any mission. They are just raking in money at other people's expense. """Our 3 friends and blood brothers…
A site which is 95% dedicated to sharing copyrighted content [citation needed] The Pirate Bay exists to make money for its founders. This is why it has so many intrusive ad's constantly popping up. The Pirate Bay exists to make it possible for people to share content, but bandwidth and infrastructure is not free. The pirate bay is such a target because the people who run it humiliate and insult people with very deep…
"""[citation needed]"""
Sure, however I doubt I am far off. The site is called The PIRATE Bay. Shall we play a game of spot the legitimate content? http://thepiratebay.se/top/300
"""The Pirate Bay exists to make it possible for people to share content, but bandwidth and infrastructure is not free."""
Of course it isn't however the owners are making no attempt to remove infringing content. They know their business is helping to distribute copyrighted digital content and they profit from it. Sure, they need to cover their costs but they don't run it to be a beacon of freedom. They run it for the $$$.
Take WikiLeaks, before it started publishing unredacted content they served a purpose. They broke some laws but they set information free. There was a positive reason for it's existence.
What has the Pirate Bay done of value over the last decade?
"""And? Is it written anywhere that people with deep pockets should not be insulted? If anything, their position of privilege should make them less prone to knee-jerk reactions."""
Knee Jerk reactions? Really? Content owners file DCMA take down requests and take other actions. The pirate bay respond by goading them.
There is little doubt that TPB is costing content owners real money by helping people access torrents. The amount is obviously up for debate however when you insult, goad and cause losses to Billion dollar companies you are asking to be engaged by an army of lawyers and politicians.
The Pirate Bay could just quieten down. "You do your thing, we do ours." They don't though do they. Instead they adopt the. "Ha ha ha ha ha ha you can't get us."
Well sorry but you know, if millions of dollars of copyrighted content is being accessed via your company. Large content owners will work to lobby and pressure politicians to take action.. this isn't knee-jerk. This just natural escalation.
"""I think you should talk to your analyst about that complex, hating extrovert people is quite the negative attitude."""
ROFL.. sure because that was exactly what I was saying...
Re: Year of the storm
#55For those not able to access the site due to ISP-blocking try setting your DNS to 8.8.8.8 and/or 4.4.4.4 (which is Google's DNS server) as they often just block the site in the DNS.
It is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
Re: Year of the storm
#56So the Pirate Bay is now a bastion of freedom that lets users in Syria and North Korea download the latest episode of Glee? (The current most popular torrent there). I'm a little confused about what their greater noble political purpose is. To me it sounds like a place where you can get your TV shows in a more convenient way than waiting until they appear on channels you have, or download that movie you can't be both…
> So the Pirate Bay is now a bastion of freedom that lets users in Syria and North Korea download the latest episode of Glee?
- difference leads to unknown
- unknown leads to fear
- fear leads to hate
This is the most basic, irrational reflex process from which emerges racism, and wars, and lots of purposeless suffering.
Previously we were segregated by geography, long distances, creating islands of culture bound by the propagation times of information. We shattered that barrier. The Internet is the first place in the world since the birth of humanity where there can be a generation of people sharing the same culture all around the world. The fact that Iranians want to watch Glee may sound trivial, but I see it as a sign that people around the world want to unite.
We should be able to watch shows, listen to music or access whatever medium by which culture transits from the other side of the world. I'm not condoning piracy but from artificial limitations like DVD zoning, digital distribution restrictions creating segregated stores (like iTunes Store) or Internet borderizing laws like SOPA really do not help at bringing people together.
tl;dr: global culture sharing prevents wars.
Re: Year of the storm
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
A site which is 95% dedicated to sharing copyrighted content [citation needed] The Pirate Bay exists to make money for its founders. This is why it has so many intrusive ad's constantly popping up. The Pirate Bay exists to make it possible for people to share content, but bandwidth and infrastructure is not free. The pirate bay is such a target because the people who run it humiliate and insult people with very deep…
Can you honestly say that the pirate bay isn't dedicated, and almost exclusively used for the distribution of material protected by copyright? Drawing attention to the fact that he hasn't cited any specific research on what is plainly evident for everyone does nothing to promote an adult discussion about the topic. Furthermore, claiming that the author hates extroverts due to some underlaying psychological issues is…
Can you honestly say that the pirate bay isn't dedicated, and almost exclusively used for the distribution of material protected by copyright?
No, but I can't say that about the Internet at-large, either. Practically everything is protected by copyright, including the beloved Linux source.
Re: Year of the storm
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you honestly say that the pirate bay isn't dedicated, and almost exclusively used for the distribution of material protected by copyright? Drawing attention to the fact that he hasn't cited any specific research on what is plainly evident for everyone does nothing to promote an adult discussion about the topic. Furthermore, claiming that the author hates extroverts due to some underlaying psychological issues is…
Can you honestly say that the pirate bay isn't dedicated, and almost exclusively used for the distribution of material protected by copyright? No, but I can't say that about the Internet at-large, either. Practically everything is protected by copyright, including the beloved Linux source.
Fair enough. Perhaps I should clarify, and say "the illegal distribution of material protected by copyright".
Its incredible how obtuse people become when discussing this issue.
Re: Year of the storm
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
what has BoF done for us lately? Or ever? Educate people about the need for internet freedom / privacy, which is a good way to get broader popular support.
Educate who? BoF barely communicates externally besides preaching to the choir. Lobbying seems to be limited to relatively powerless left-wing opposition politicians. Getting broader support is exactly what they very much don't do. And so far the result has been exactly what you would expect: we've been railroaded with measures violating privacy and limiting online freedom, with very little protest.
I don't claim to know the details, and I'm certainly not trying to defend them or something. But even if they're not as effective as they could be, every "bit" helps.
Re: Year of the storm
#60It is sad, but I cannot read this blog post. The Dutch equivalent of the RIAA/MPAA, named Brein, sued two of the major Dutch ISPs for not blocking access to The Pirate Bay. Brein won the court case, and the judge required these ISPs to block The Pirate Bay starting yesterday. Now I am met with this when visiting thepiratebay.se: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/blokkade.png/ Internet censorship is now real in…
The PUSCII collective has set up a proxy especially for The Pirate Bay at: http://www.br3in.nl/
Do you have an ip for that? I can't get to it from the US.