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Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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[Google Translation] Artificial Intelligence: The Guarantor blocks ChatGPT Illegal collection of personal data. Absence of systems for verifying the age of minors Stop ChatGPT until it respects the privacy regulation. The Guarantor for the protection of personal data has ordered, with immediate effect, the temporary limitation of the processing of data of Italian users against OpenAI, the US company that developed an…

This 4% rule really has teeth. It is even more interesting for Microsoft, where this would probably eat most of the profit.

Capped at 20 million euros

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way does ChatGPT behave like they own the world?

They use every bit of data they can find without regard to the rights of the authors, publishers, or subjects of the data?

Is this coming from the same community that has always said that copyright has to be abolished?

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Now do protecting our IP and content from unwanted openai scraping. Just because a blog or book is out in the open it doesn't mean a company should immediately integrate it in their product - which is what open ai does. Pay for it and if i agree on the price I shall let you use my content.

If you put it out in the open – someone might read it. If they read it – they may remember it and retell it later or use it in their works. That someone may or may not be a human person. If you want to get paid for the work – don't put it out in the open.

Yes, and that's by mutual agreement. I allow you to read my content in exchange for money or traffic. That doesn't mean open ai, a company building a product, has the right to use my work word by word to train their model without my constent and then monetise it - that's theft. Where's the option to remove my content or to stop open ai from using it?

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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Crazy to see how fast all of this is evolving. Honestly the downside of explosive growth is that all of a sudden you need to ramp up resources to deal with these sort of legal T&C issues. It makes sense that now that they're huge they need to operate as a more mature company. They'll hire some expensive lawyers and enable Facebook style age verification on sign up and they'll get away from this one. But I'm sure they…

The GDPR has extensive requirements that can't be met by ChatGPT because it's training on public data sources everywhere.

If they're in violation of EU privacy laws then how are they not fined for it or outright banned? I got a fine from the local court in Germany because I put a google maps widget on my company's "about us" page, the court gave me 30 days to remove it.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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This is just a temporary annoyance for OpenAI. Their partner/owner Microsoft already hosts GDPR compliant OpenAI GPT-3 models from an Azure data center (in the EU). It's only a question of time before they also host GPT-3.5-turbo and GPT-4. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/o... Azure ain't cheap but they know how to do EU compliance. Many EU governments put their citizens data on Azure's EU…

The training data is a serious problem. So far Adobe is the only company I've heard of to publicly state they had the right to use the data for training.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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I really don't get this kind of bans. When I connect to a service in the US, my bits are traveling there. Italy "banning" ChatGPT (whatever it means) is like preventing me from getting high in Amsterdam because, as an Italian citizen, I should not be allowed to.. Never got it, and never will.

Its not like banning you from getting high in Amsterdam. In that situation both you and the drugs are in amsterdam where they have no jurisdiction.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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I really don't get this kind of bans. When I connect to a service in the US, my bits are traveling there. Italy "banning" ChatGPT (whatever it means) is like preventing me from getting high in Amsterdam because, as an Italian citizen, I should not be allowed to.. Never got it, and never will.

You are ignoring everything GDPR is about.

European data, European rules.

Re: Italian privacy regulator bans ChatGPT

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> The Guarantor for the protection of personal data has imposed, with immediate effect, the temporary limitation of data processing of Italian users by OpenAI, the US company that developed and manages the platform.

Pretty sure OpenAI could just ignore this if they wish, unless they have a presence in the EU.

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