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Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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Post by petre »

saiya-jin wrote: post #54
bilekas wrote: post #12

This is still a bit insane to me. If I understand correct, you have to fill a form with a justification why you object, and then Meta will decide if you can be removed from the detailed data collection ? Privacy is a basic human right, and the strawman argument of "Well don't just use their services then" is ridiculous with their influence. Also them touting to "connected the world" When in reality is "connecting to…

FB doesn't comply with what EU wants, then block it on whole continent. 1 or 2 weeks of annoyance and then we can use whatever alternative is out there. FB would be hurt so much more by this than EU users (market bigger than US, and other countries would follow), especially long term that they will quickly reconsider their uber-arrogant behavior. Really, who the f*k do they think they are, just another greedy corp ru…

The EU DPO is going to find that Meta doesn't comply with the regulation and it's going to hit them with huges fines. It's more productive than blocking it. If they don't pay up, the court will most probably order asset freezes and cessation of operations in the EU, including blocking thir services. They are legally required to keep EU users' data in the EU anyway.

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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Post by jimnotgym »

f1refly wrote: post #58
gman83 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In terms of Facebook where I live, "Well don't just use their services then" is simply impossible. Almost all of my kids' sports activities and parent groups are on WhatsApp, I have to use it.

"Simply impossible" is relative once you don't use whatsapp anymore. People will just adjust to send you sms or call you instead for important information.

I complained that a sailing club I was a member of used Facebook to organise the weekly activities. They offered WhatsApp as a compromise! It was almost impossible to participate without it, because you needed a safety boat operator on site to sail. In the old days I guess they simply agreed a rota, now everyone is 'too busy' to do that, so a Facebook group is the answer, 'anybody sailing today'.

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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Post by hutzlibu »

kergonath wrote: post #63
hutzlibu wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does, if you also use adblocker, disable js on certain sites, etc.

So it’s not the “not using FB” that prevents the tracking, then.

"Tracking" is a bit different, if I go to a big news site, that happens to also serve FB ads - than going to FB directly and complain that they track what I do at their place.

And like I said, if I use a adblocker preventing to load FBs add in the first place, then how can they meaningfully track me in any way?

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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Post by hutzlibu »

nerdponx wrote: post #60
hutzlibu wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does, if you also use adblocker, disable js on certain sites, etc.

You can and will be fingerprinted and de-anonymized.

How so, if my adblocker prevents loading the add?

The site itself I am visiting could do so and share it with FB and whoever, sure - but this would be a different scenario.

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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Post by jimnotgym »

petre wrote: post #71
saiya-jin wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FB doesn't comply with what EU wants, then block it on whole continent. 1 or 2 weeks of annoyance and then we can use whatever alternative is out there. FB would be hurt so much more by this than EU users (market bigger than US, and other countries would follow), especially long term that they will quickly reconsider their uber-arrogant behavior. Really, who the f*k do they think they are, just another greedy corp ru…

The EU DPO is going to find that Meta doesn't comply with the regulation and it's going to hit them with huges fines. It's more productive than blocking it. If they don't pay up, the court will most probably order asset freezes and cessation of operations in the EU, including blocking thir services. They are legally required to keep EU users' data in the EU anyway.

I just wish there was a quicker way to the last sentence!

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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Post by 9dev »

justchill wrote: post #42
gman83 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In terms of Facebook where I live, "Well don't just use their services then" is simply impossible. Almost all of my kids' sports activities and parent groups are on WhatsApp, I have to use it.

Then make a stand. I am in the same boat, yet for me I just get called or texted.

Most probably you’re simply left out if others plan activities. It’s annoying, but that’s how it is.

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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Post by ekianjo »

gman83 wrote: post #22
bilekas wrote: post #12

This is still a bit insane to me. If I understand correct, you have to fill a form with a justification why you object, and then Meta will decide if you can be removed from the detailed data collection ? Privacy is a basic human right, and the strawman argument of "Well don't just use their services then" is ridiculous with their influence. Also them touting to "connected the world" When in reality is "connecting to…

In terms of Facebook where I live, "Well don't just use their services then" is simply impossible. Almost all of my kids' sports activities and parent groups are on WhatsApp, I have to use it.

> Almost all of my kids' sports activities and parent groups are on WhatsApp, I have to use it.

Stop associating with clueless people

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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Post by itronitron »

nerdponx wrote: post #60
hutzlibu wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does, if you also use adblocker, disable js on certain sites, etc.

You can and will be fingerprinted and de-anonymized.

Do you know if the social media icons that people put in their email signature can also be used to collect data on sender and recipient? I tried searching for information on this a while back but all I got in the search results were tutorials on how to add the social media icons in the email signature 'block'. :/

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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Post by concordDance »

ekianjo wrote: post #77
gman83 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In terms of Facebook where I live, "Well don't just use their services then" is simply impossible. Almost all of my kids' sports activities and parent groups are on WhatsApp, I have to use it.

> Almost all of my kids' sports activities and parent groups are on WhatsApp, I have to use it. Stop associating with clueless people

Child abandonment is illegal

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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Post by tcfhgj »

concordDance wrote: post #79
ekianjo wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Almost all of my kids' sports activities and parent groups are on WhatsApp, I have to use it. Stop associating with clueless people

Child abandonment is illegal

This has nothing to do with child abandonment
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