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Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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NOYB is a much better source. These two paragraphs alone do a better job than the entire Ars article: https://noyb.eu/en/meta-facebook-instagram-switching-legitim... > Background. The GDPR allows to process personal data if a company complies with at least one of six legal basis in Article 6 GDPR. Most of these six options are irrelevant for advertisement. While most companies require users to consent ("opt-in") for…

I'm honestly shocked most sensible EU countries don't simply DNS block Meta at this point.

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it incredible that they are bold enough to try to pass this as legitimate interest when the Internet Advertising Bureau (IAB) is currently neck deep with the Belgian DPA over that very matter. Legitimate Interest is supposed to be used for thinks like fraud prevention, not for added value things like highly target advertising that requires building a profile of a user. I don’t think it’s going to end well for…

I think some major differences between Meta and IAB is that IAB was sharing the data with other companies where Meta keeps your data to themselves. Additionally as a part of personalizing the non ad posts on ones feed the data is already being collected and processed. Showing a relevant ad isn't much different privacy wise than showing a relevant post. Tracking how you interact with a post isn't much different from t…

This is a completely circular argument which also happens to completely miss the point.

1. They want to show personalized adverts

2. So they collect and process the data to do so

3. And therefore because they've collected the data, they must be allowed to show personalized adverts.

Aside from it being complete nonsense, the contention is around the 2nd point. They should NOT be allowed to collect and process the data for that purpose without permission, which EU courts have repeatedly stated.

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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This is still a bit insane to me. If I understand correct, you have to fill a form with a justification why you object, and then Meta will decide if you can be removed from the detailed data collection ? Privacy is a basic human right, and the strawman argument of "Well don't just use their services then" is ridiculous with their influence. Also them touting to "connected the world" When in reality is "connecting to…

FB doesn't comply with what EU wants, then block it on whole continent. 1 or 2 weeks of annoyance and then we can use whatever alternative is out there.

FB would be hurt so much more by this than EU users (market bigger than US, and other countries would follow), especially long term that they will quickly reconsider their uber-arrogant behavior. Really, who the f*k do they think they are, just another greedy corp run by sociopathic a-holes that will sooner or later be just part of history.

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

#55

NOYB is a much better source. These two paragraphs alone do a better job than the entire Ars article: https://noyb.eu/en/meta-facebook-instagram-switching-legitim... > Background. The GDPR allows to process personal data if a company complies with at least one of six legal basis in Article 6 GDPR. Most of these six options are irrelevant for advertisement. While most companies require users to consent ("opt-in") for…

I'm honestly shocked most sensible EU countries don't simply DNS block Meta at this point.

Because WhatsApp is the primary mode of communication for hundreds of millions of people across the EU.

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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GDPR obliges them to delete your data upon request. But I'm not sure how well Facebook/Meta complies with this. This post from 4 years ago doesn't sound encouraging: https://ruben.verborgh.org/facebook/ Does anyone know if they've improved since then?

I'd deleted my Facebook account years before, but after that begrudgingly signed up to Facebook Messenger because my friends insisted on using it (which are separate accounts apparently). At some point, a couple of years ago, I decided enough was enough (probably when they forced me to accept some new anti-privacy EULA which otherwise blocked me from using Messenger Lite). There was no delete account option in the ap…

Put a complaint in your national GDPR office.

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

#57

Lol no. That is a great way to have the European Parliament and the Commission to have a thorough look into your data harvesting practices. And lose yet another lawsuit.

... and be punished with yet another 11.278 € fine, as if that would change anything.

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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post #12

This is still a bit insane to me. If I understand correct, you have to fill a form with a justification why you object, and then Meta will decide if you can be removed from the detailed data collection ? Privacy is a basic human right, and the strawman argument of "Well don't just use their services then" is ridiculous with their influence. Also them touting to "connected the world" When in reality is "connecting to…

In terms of Facebook where I live, "Well don't just use their services then" is simply impossible. Almost all of my kids' sports activities and parent groups are on WhatsApp, I have to use it.

"Simply impossible" is relative once you don't use whatsapp anymore. People will just adjust to send you sms or call you instead for important information.

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

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post #12

This is still a bit insane to me. If I understand correct, you have to fill a form with a justification why you object, and then Meta will decide if you can be removed from the detailed data collection ? Privacy is a basic human right, and the strawman argument of "Well don't just use their services then" is ridiculous with their influence. Also them touting to "connected the world" When in reality is "connecting to…

Have you considered not using their services if you don't want to pay with your data in exchange for their computing power, data storage, engineering time, etc?

Re: Meta wants EU users to apply for permission to opt out of data collection

#60
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not using FB does not prevent Meta from tracking you.

It does, if you also use adblocker, disable js on certain sites, etc.

You can and will be fingerprinted and de-anonymized.
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