AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my projects
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AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my projects
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Re: AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my projects
#2Ok, so when people say that they use ChatGPT for coding, they use it as a code snippet library? Here, a function that has been probably written million times before in some similar form, and a template for a simple web app.
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#3Ok, so when people say that they use ChatGPT for coding, they use it as a code snippet library? Here, a function that has been probably written million times before in some similar form, and a template for a simple web app.
Wrong, gpt4 is very capable of writing “new” and complex code.
Also gpt4 >> gpt3.5 for coding.
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#4I agree with this. I have been trying to learn and use swift in a personal project. I have no experience with app development or Swift. Googling everything would have taken way more time in comparison with chatGPT. Most helpful thing was I can paste some code and ask for explanation. Googling is harder when I don’t know what the name of something is.
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#5Ok, so when people say that they use ChatGPT for coding, they use it as a code snippet library? Here, a function that has been probably written million times before in some similar form, and a template for a simple web app.
I am really struggling to make chat gpt write anything near functioning for the projects i am working on. Then i read the code people share and claim is made by ai and understand why. It’s really basic code that instead of copy pasting from stackoverflow is copied from a text generator. Perhaps it may evolve as a tech but right now it’s at the stage of pareidolia but instead of seeing faces people see intelligence where there is none.
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#6@Simon, I love this. And one day, in the not too distant future, a few old wizened graybeards, like you and I and the other folks on this site who have been writing code from scratch for 20 years, will be the magicians who walk the earth among mere mortals who only learned to code with the assistance of ChatGPT.
We will be the ones with the preattentive syntax parsing in our brains that let us simply see basic syntax errors; we will be the ones who can point out simple but subtle errors immediately—because we’ve made them 10000 times; we will be the ones who can take a ChatGPT response and immediately identify how it’s lacking not just in outcome but in edge case handling. We came of age before stack overflow, and have matured to the point where we treat stack overflow answers as mere suggestions for a possible approach, not as code to be copied and adapted.
And then, when we are no more, there will be no one left who can wrangle the turtles that reach the bottommost depths of the full stack.
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#7@Simon, I love this. And one day, in the not too distant future, a few old wizened graybeards, like you and I and the other folks on this site who have been writing code from scratch for 20 years, will be the magicians who walk the earth among mere mortals who only learned to code with the assistance of ChatGPT. We will be the ones with the preattentive syntax parsing in our brains that let us simply see basic syntax…
In some way it's kind of poetic.
The mental overhead of producing softwares shrinks more and more. It will sure be at the cost of understanding and/or see errors as you say.
I already looking forward of being that graybeard. And show off to my neighbors or grandchildren
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#8Ok, so when people say that they use ChatGPT for coding, they use it as a code snippet library? Here, a function that has been probably written million times before in some similar form, and a template for a simple web app.
Wrong, gpt4 is very capable of writing “new” and complex code. Also gpt4 >> gpt3.5 for coding.
Welcome to the age of the unbenchmarkable product. You say one thing, someone says another, and here we are...
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#9Ok, so when people say that they use ChatGPT for coding, they use it as a code snippet library? Here, a function that has been probably written million times before in some similar form, and a template for a simple web app.
I use GPT-4, it's like pairing up with a junior developer who read all the documentation.
I follow the same steps as always to design the code, but when it's time to implement something, I ask the bot to do it, then I review it and move on to the next function.
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#10Ok, so when people say that they use ChatGPT for coding, they use it as a code snippet library? Here, a function that has been probably written million times before in some similar form, and a template for a simple web app.
I am really struggling to make chat gpt write anything near functioning for the projects i am working on. Then i read the code people share and claim is made by ai and understand why. It’s really basic code that instead of copy pasting from stackoverflow is copied from a text generator. Perhaps it may evolve as a tech but right now it’s at the stage of pareidolia but instead of seeing faces people see intelligence wh…
Had the same experience with chatgpt with gpt3.5, but gpt4 is wayyy better.
Also Github Co-pilot has been good for a long time.