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Hetzner introduces new server product with insane parameters for 59 EUR/mth

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Re: Hetzner introduces new server product with insane parameters for 59 EUR/mth

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Post by LogicX »

My issue with Hetzner is that by the time you add in management options necessary for a remote dedicated server, your monthly cost isn't that much better than other options.

Example: To have remote KVM/IP you'd need to first pay 15EUR for their flexipack for the privilege of adding additional features. then 19EUR mo and 149 EUR setup for KVM/IP Now you're up to $122USD/mo + almost $400USD for setup.

Compare to Incero's WebHostingTalk offer: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1121998 which is $99/mo paid in quarterly batches. Which is server grade, better CPU, ECC RAM, with KVM/IP and is in the US (Texas).

Hetzner is still cheaper overall with the 32GB -- because they're not dealing with much more expensive server class ECC RAM, but I just feel its important to bring the initial low number you see: 59 to a realistic place...

Re: Hetzner introduces new server product with insane parameters for 59 EUR/mth

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Post by LogicX »

Uchikoma wrote: post #22

I'm using Hetzner for 10years, with very very few major problems (I only remember 1). I compared them some time ago to EC2 pricewise: http://codemonkeyism.com/dark-side-virtualized-servers-cloud... And setup of a new server is quite fast too.

The awesome article "The Five Stages of Hosting" http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3526767 from yesterday should be mentioned. I brought some price-point discussions in the comments. Some good rebuttals lower down regarding EC2's committed cost options.

Re: Hetzner introduces new server product with insane parameters for 59 EUR/mth

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Post by jorisw »

LogicX wrote: post #31

My issue with Hetzner is that by the time you add in management options necessary for a remote dedicated server, your monthly cost isn't that much better than other options. Example: To have remote KVM/IP you'd need to first pay 15EUR for their flexipack for the privilege of adding additional features. then 19EUR mo and 149 EUR setup for KVM/IP Now you're up to $122USD/mo + almost $400USD for setup. Compare to Incero…

What would you need remote KVM/IP for? If your ssh ever dies, you can reboot the thing into rescue mode, log in over remote console, fix whatever's broken, and reboot the system.

I have been using an older server offer of theirs for years now, and never had to pay for anything other than the said fee.

Re: Hetzner introduces new server product with insane parameters for 59 EUR/mth

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Post by ergo14 »

LogicX wrote: post #31

My issue with Hetzner is that by the time you add in management options necessary for a remote dedicated server, your monthly cost isn't that much better than other options. Example: To have remote KVM/IP you'd need to first pay 15EUR for their flexipack for the privilege of adding additional features. then 19EUR mo and 149 EUR setup for KVM/IP Now you're up to $122USD/mo + almost $400USD for setup. Compare to Incero…

It is realistic if you don't order additional packages ;-)

Re: Hetzner introduces new server product with insane parameters for 59 EUR/mth

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Post by sek »

LogicX wrote: post #31

My issue with Hetzner is that by the time you add in management options necessary for a remote dedicated server, your monthly cost isn't that much better than other options. Example: To have remote KVM/IP you'd need to first pay 15EUR for their flexipack for the privilege of adding additional features. then 19EUR mo and 149 EUR setup for KVM/IP Now you're up to $122USD/mo + almost $400USD for setup. Compare to Incero…

Don't forget it is incl. VAT, that means it really costs 19% less for foreign and business customers.

Edit: 59.00/1.19 = 49.58 (it really is minus 16%, my old accounting teacher would kill me ;-)

Re: Hetzner introduces new server product with insane parameters for 59 EUR/mth

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Post by sp332 »

latch wrote: post #24
zerathul wrote: post #18

can anyone explain how is this even possible considering how expensive that piece of hardware is?

As long as the price > operating cost, they'll eventually make money on it. You could say that they take a different approach to say Rackspace or Softlayer which try to recoup the initial investment during the first month.

But you have to subtract the operating costs, and still make your money back quickly before you have to pay to upgrade the hardware again.

Re: Hetzner introduces new server product with insane parameters for 59 EUR/mth

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Post by tluyben2 »

samarudge wrote: post #6
meow wrote: post #2

Is this host trustworthy ? Feature wise it seems too good to be true: Intel® Core™ i7-2600 Quadcore incl. Hyper-Threading Technology RAM 32 GB DDR3 RAM Hard disks 2 x 3 TB SATA 6 Gb/s HDD 7200 rpm (Software-RAID 1) NIC 1 GBit OnBoard connected at 100 MBit Backup Space 100 GB Traffic Unlimited*

They are one of the largest hosts in Europe (~50k dedicated servers if I remember correctly). Large doesn't always mean best, though. Similar to OVH, they provide good hardware, reliability and a decent enough network, but if anything goes wrong you best know how to fix it yourself. I also believe their network isn't /as/ good as somewhere like Rackspace however with CDN's etc. that's probably not as much of an issue…

OVH definitely does not provide good hardware; we have more broken disks and NICs there than all our other hosters combined.

Edit: I see we might be exceptions. We have been using OVH since 2005, running up to 40 servers about 2 years ago. We are also running at iWeb, Softlayer, Amazon and Leaseweb. Hardware wise the only one we have issues with is OVH, and i'm talking every 2 weeks since 2005 (in 2006 they managed to lose all our data on 2 clustered RAID machines; one died, all corrupted, then when we were busy setting up the replacement, the other one died...). But they are so cheap and easy (like the easy OS installation which is cloud-like, already for many years) we stick with them for some projects which need high spec hardware in clusters. Note: the SSD drives are great, no problems with those so far (knock on wood).

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