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I have no faith in Canonical and am moving off Ubuntu desktop. Never tried Touch (though the whole Unity/mobile flavour was already off-putting) and don't intend to. It's also a weird headline, wouldn't users choose iPhones then?
This is not an official Canonical project.
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Why don't you like Ubuntu? Because of the Amazon store thing?
I think canonical has taken control from users to its own benefit. As one example, ubuntu-minimal is the minimal meta package, but it has a sneaky dependency on ubuntu-advantage-tools and ubuntu-advantage-tools is sort of the master phone-home system.
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It isn't though. What fits into a app screen of a phone also fits into a browser screen on a phone
how your bank's push notifications work without native app? Recently I see there is fingerprint support in browsers on Android, but AFAIK it's quite new - have you had to enter password each time?
Also, not everyone is willing to use fingerprints, so there's that too.
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Not OP, but they deleted the boot loader of when windows drive when I installed Ubuntu on a different drive... not cool, Cannonical.
how do you expect it to boot? At least linux keeps windows as an option, try installing windows after linux and you will be left without a way to boot it
It could be anything else, but it had to be Ubuntu.
Screenshots! The first thing most people want when evaluating an operating system for a personal device is a screenshot. A picture is worth a thousand words, and in the case of a screenshot, you can choose what’s in it to visually communicate key features. I’ve been digging around the site for several minutes and I have yet to find a single one.
If I were to mention some points that would be high on my wish list:
Radical reliability.
Frequent security updates.
Rare feature updates. Make the feature set solid to begin with, . There are only so many tasks that are critical on a phone
A UI Insane speed and responsiveness, with as much eye candy removed as possible.
An email client and SMS messenger modelled after the classic Blackberry OS. I have never even come close to the speed and convenience of Blackberry for email and SMS Esp. with dedicated hardware buttons.
(Note this was long before Blackberry on Android or Blackberry Touch. BB was never going to catch up with the iPhone to be an iPhone copy and they should not have tried.)
Note: This was in their classic days.
I loved it so much I tried hard for a while to start a company producing a copy. Hardware costs kept that from ever going anywhere. (Which I sort of knew but wanted a proper real life change)
Then pivoting to Android to make an app that was plugged in at a low enough level to achieve the desired features Ideally combined with a small dock keyboard that attached to te bottom of the phone where the powerplug is.
Then a different company made such a dock so we were in talks with them. It proved impossible to get the dock keyboard stable enough for our needs.
Eventually we gave up on the Android version. It felt like we were spending far too much time fighting Android instead of developer our goal the email/SMS app.
I hope someone else can eventually succeed in this but I think the market for it is small. :(
I have a couple of the Planet phones with build in Keyboard. One a "copy" of the Psion5l But again Android is far too dominant in day to day use.
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how your bank's push notifications work without native app? Recently I see there is fingerprint support in browsers on Android, but AFAIK it's quite new - have you had to enter password each time?
Webpush is a thing? But I don't get push notifications from my bank, so I don't know what I would be missing? Also, not everyone is willing to use fingerprints, so there's that too.
Willing or unwilling is per person and bit different question which is out of my interest for now.
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I think you're right, but Maybe it's my myopia, but I feel they were easily the most dev friend years ago, and poured their life and money into it, to benefit others But then after ubuntu phone, the level of ingratitude from us devs were shocking Project focus wasn't always on the ball, but we the community ripped them apart for it So yeah, snaps is a little more lookin' after number one. I agree with that assessment…
The list of Ubuntu "sins" is very long, and goes all the way to their founding - effectively forking the Debian ecosystem. As for being "dev friendly", it really depends on what you mean by that; their insistence on building their own things and discounting third-party input, over and over, was anything but friendly.
> effectively forking the Debian ecosystem
The company and project were founded by a Debian user and developer, who employed and still employs a number of Debian developers, to make a version of Debian for ordinary people.
How is that a bad thing?
Ubuntu changes feed back into Debian. Debian now has the `apt` command instead of `aptitude`. It has the Ubuntu GUI tool for configuring repositories and so on. It has various bits of Ubuntu.
ISTM that this was as friendly and cooperative as a sub-project can be, and Debian has benefitted significantly from it.
I tried Debian before Ubuntu. It was hard and I didn't use it because it was too hard for me to bother.
(I used Caldera OpenLinux and then later SUSE.)
Nowadays Debian is a lot better and easier, and I reckon a lot of that is down to the Ubuntu influence.
I find it hard to see that as a bad thing.