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My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Post by danudey »

fauxpause_ wrote: post #39

Paraphrasing, the party goes to a mount shop, dude says he’s gonna roll to find exotic mounts, and voila, exotic mounts. Party rolls to try and steal an exotic mount and it doesn’t really work so they leave. This is a hard problem. It’s bad DMing imo. But it’s the natural outcome from a probabilistic model. I’m guessing you could announce your intention to search for just about anything and get the model to let you f…

I just tested it myself, and it's surprisingly interesting. Unfortunately, ChatGPT still behaves as its normal self, assertions included, as illustrated when I told my "DM" that actually the bad guy and I were good friends and asked what was up.

https://imgur.com/a/4oeVsug

In the first instance, I lied to ChatGPT and it took my assertion at face value, changing the scenario in a pretty extreme way. In the second instance I tried to have my character lie to the NPC, but ChatGPT also believed me.

It's definitely an interesting possibility but it seems as though even if you're trying to play it straight instead of manipulating the scenario, you can still end up changing the reality of the world by accident. Not all the way there yet, unfortunately.

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Post by d_burfoot »

It's both amazing and weirdly fallible - Tenzin, the rogue, jumps out of the tree to make a surprise attack, but in the next round of combat GPT-DM claims that he is still in the tree. Also:

> Tenzin, still hidden in the tree, targets another wolf with his rapier.

Does GPT4 not know that a halfling in a tree can't attack a wolf on the ground with a rapier?

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Post by moffkalast »

danudey wrote: post #72
fauxpause_ wrote: post #39

Paraphrasing, the party goes to a mount shop, dude says he’s gonna roll to find exotic mounts, and voila, exotic mounts. Party rolls to try and steal an exotic mount and it doesn’t really work so they leave. This is a hard problem. It’s bad DMing imo. But it’s the natural outcome from a probabilistic model. I’m guessing you could announce your intention to search for just about anything and get the model to let you f…

I just tested it myself, and it's surprisingly interesting. Unfortunately, ChatGPT still behaves as its normal self, assertions included, as illustrated when I told my "DM" that actually the bad guy and I were good friends and asked what was up. https://imgur.com/a/4oeVsug In the first instance, I lied to ChatGPT and it took my assertion at face value, changing the scenario in a pretty extreme way. In the second inst…

Weird thought, but maybe Bing's version would be better at this, given it's extreme comparative stubbornness?

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Post by moffkalast »

d_burfoot wrote: post #73

It's both amazing and weirdly fallible - Tenzin, the rogue, jumps out of the tree to make a surprise attack, but in the next round of combat GPT-DM claims that he is still in the tree. Also: > Tenzin, still hidden in the tree, targets another wolf with his rapier. Does GPT4 not know that a halfling in a tree can't attack a wolf on the ground with a rapier?

Tis' a very long rapier.

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Post by gricardo99 »

fauxpause_ wrote: post #39

Paraphrasing, the party goes to a mount shop, dude says he’s gonna roll to find exotic mounts, and voila, exotic mounts. Party rolls to try and steal an exotic mount and it doesn’t really work so they leave. This is a hard problem. It’s bad DMing imo. But it’s the natural outcome from a probabilistic model. I’m guessing you could announce your intention to search for just about anything and get the model to let you f…

   I think this also highlights how bad D&D combat is. Man that was boring to read.
Agree. Boring to play too. I’m wondering how chatGPT, or other such aides can be used to make combat better. I tend to aggregate rolls for foes in larger combat scenarios, which speeds and simplifies the process, but that has some big downsides too, for example it’s not quite fair to aggregate a critical hit/fail for all foes.

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Post by ilaksh »

idonotknowwhy wrote: post #37
bidirectional wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What stage of denial is this?

I'll probably try saying that stuff about laughter and personality when it takes away my coding job lol

Actually I am about 99% sure that audio transformer models can simulate all sorts of emotions or personality. I mean with Eleven Labs, which is 100% realistic, you could just train it on a voice that was constantly expressing some emotion. Then train another voice ID with the same person but different emotion.

Pretty sure they are working on ways to add inflection or something.

But 100% as far as the text goes, GPT4 can assume a personality or include jokes in interactions. Will it necessarily be as "good" as your text chat personality I doubt it but who knows.

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