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My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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post #25

I’ve not been hugely impressed by ChatGPT as a DM itself, compared to the humans I’ve played with. But as a tool to generate quests, encounters, puzzles, dialogue, it’s been incredible for me. It takes all the stress out of planning a campaign and it’s actually surprisingly creative.

Same. I don’t mind paying the $20 a month solely for game prep for my weekly games. I haven’t used it for puzzles yet, so thanks for the idea.

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Kind of fun but also kind of deeply depressing. D&D and boardgames are great ways to socialize in our modern internet separated world - shifting these even more towards solo pursuits feels like it'd be a loss.

I grew up on both MUDs and TTRPGs which served as awesome creative outlets for collaborative story telling - I do hope that we make sure we're not optimizing away creativity.

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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post #17

The main thing I can't stop thinking about is how hard Wizards of the Coast is going to hate this, and what legal means they will employ to try to either destroy it or make money from OpenAI

Why would they hate this? They'll sell access to it, just like anyone else who is eager to take LLMs that consume content from the public domain, and repackage it into a walled-garden-entry-by-fee, giving nothing back to the public.

Why do I need to buy it from them if I can just do it myself directly on OpenAI? (Or are you implying that OpenAI will censor it?)

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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I thought ChatGPT had pretty limited recall of past context of your conversation. How can it remember the details needed across an entire campaign?

Maybe it doesn't really need to fully remember it in order to still do a pretty ok job? I think its ~50 pages of context?

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

#35
post #15

This is not a big deal. Reading the pre-set text from an adventure module and rolling monster dice is the easy part of being a DM. clap clap ChatGPT . Having a personality, bringing out laughter, banter and fun, i.e. being a human being is the hard part. You aint got what it takes ChatGPT, stupid language regurgitating machine.

What stage of denial is this?

I'd say we're still at denial. The idea that GPT can't simulate what he's just said is not really true.

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they hate this? They'll sell access to it, just like anyone else who is eager to take LLMs that consume content from the public domain, and repackage it into a walled-garden-entry-by-fee, giving nothing back to the public.

Why do I need to buy it from them if I can just do it myself directly on OpenAI? (Or are you implying that OpenAI will censor it?)

Once they collaborate with 'Open'AI to build a product out for this niche, it's incredibly unlikely that OpenAI will continue to provide this service to you.

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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post #15

This is not a big deal. Reading the pre-set text from an adventure module and rolling monster dice is the easy part of being a DM. clap clap ChatGPT . Having a personality, bringing out laughter, banter and fun, i.e. being a human being is the hard part. You aint got what it takes ChatGPT, stupid language regurgitating machine.

What stage of denial is this?

I'll probably try saying that stuff about laughter and personality when it takes away my coding job lol

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Paraphrasing, the party goes to a mount shop, dude says he’s gonna roll to find exotic mounts, and voila, exotic mounts. Party rolls to try and steal an exotic mount and it doesn’t really work so they leave.

This is a hard problem. It’s bad DMing imo. But it’s the natural outcome from a probabilistic model. I’m guessing you could announce your intention to search for just about anything and get the model to let you find it given a good roll.

The descriptions are rich, which is cool. The opportunity here seems to be having a human DM using it to flesh out portrayals of things that they choose.

I think this also highlights how bad D&D combat is. Man that was boring to read.

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

#40
post #15

This is not a big deal. Reading the pre-set text from an adventure module and rolling monster dice is the easy part of being a DM. clap clap ChatGPT . Having a personality, bringing out laughter, banter and fun, i.e. being a human being is the hard part. You aint got what it takes ChatGPT, stupid language regurgitating machine.

What stage of denial is this?

I'm waiting for the moment when an LLM will prove a new math theorem or something and people will go: "Well, you know, it's not really that impressive considering it used X and Y previous results produced by humans. The model's contribution is tiny. This proof was kind-of low-hanging, a lucky PhD student would have stumbled into it eventually." It's coming.
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