Google denies training Bard on ChatGPT chats from ShareGPT

Post by duringmath » Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 5:15 PM UTC

bastardoperator wrote: post #147

duringmath wrote: post #113

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I just don't want to be hit with a wall of text every single time, it gets the point across with minimal padding (high signal to noise ratio), ChatGPT feels like it gets paid by the word and they do actually charge by token if you use the API. As for the UI it's a take on the tried and true chat UI same as ChatGPT's, it spits the whole answer at once instead of feeding it to you one word at a time, it has an alternat…

You can combat that in the prompt, I use "just code, no words" which will also remove code comments from output. Bard doesn't respect the same request. You can be more succinct with chatgpt. Half the things I ask for in Bard give me this: "I'm still learning coding skills, so at the moment I can't help with this. I'm trained to do things like help you write lists about different topics, compare things, or build trave…

Post by frozenlettuce » Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 5:16 PM UTC

rgbrenner wrote: post #77

ankit219 wrote: post #35

According to the article, the story goes this way: This engineer Jacob Devlin raised his concerns on training Bard with ShareGPT data. Then he directly joined OpenAI. He also claims that Google were about to do it, and then they stopped after his warnings. And presumably removed every trace of openai's responses. A couple of things: 1. So, Bard could have been trained on ShareGPT but it's not - according to the same…

Take what action? Pretty sure that’s not illegal, especially since the training data is ai generated and therefore can’t be copyrighted.

Post by commoner » Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 5:19 PM UTC

flir wrote: post #163

bloppe wrote: post #158

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You relinquish all licensing rights when you upload your code to GitHub. Microsoft can do whatever they want with it. That's in their ToS, which you have to agree to when you make an account. Normally, only affirmatively accepted ToS are enforceable, so just putting a clause into your license doesn't work (unless it's a copyright, which doesn't require consent).

> You relinquish all licensing rights when you upload your code to GitHub What now? Seriously? I found this. Section D4. "We need the legal right to do things like host Your Content, publish it, and share it. You grant us and our legal successors the right to store, archive, parse, and display Your Content, and make incidental copies, as necessary to provide the Service, including improving the Service over time. Thi…

Post by magicalist » Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 5:21 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #143

paxys wrote: post #88

1. Google denies doing it, so at the very least the title should have an "allegedly". 2. Even if they did – so what? The output from ChatGPT is not copyrightable by OpenAI. In fact it is OpenAI that is training its models on copyrighted data, pictures, code from all over the internet.

> The output from ChatGPT is not copyrightable by OpenAI. I think the argument here is over the OpenAI Terms of Service, not copyright.

Post by bloppe » Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 5:22 PM UTC

saurik wrote: post #169

bloppe wrote: post #158

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You relinquish all licensing rights when you upload your code to GitHub. Microsoft can do whatever they want with it. That's in their ToS, which you have to agree to when you make an account. Normally, only affirmatively accepted ToS are enforceable, so just putting a clause into your license doesn't work (unless it's a copyright, which doesn't require consent).

So, to verify, are you claiming it would not be allowed for you to upload my otherwise-open-source code (code I do not myself host at GitHub, but which was reasonably popular / important code) to GitHub?